Posts Made By: Rod Kaufman

Originally Posted by Richard Davis

It depends on who you are and your underlying existing conditions as to whether it is life or death. If you have lung problems yes, it CAN be life or death.  If you have other respiratory illnesses, are on immune suppressing drugs because of a transplant etc...Yes, it can be life or death.  

If you are a healthy individual it is most likely NOT life or death.  If we we losing half of the people who have it, then YES it WOULD be life or death.  

Oh, ok Rich, thank you and that makes me feel a lot better and all those 100,000 to 240,000 projections fall under the distinction you have delineated.

Originally Posted by James Lacey

Trump hasn't changed. A change of tone in one briefing campaign rally is not proof of that. Besides, he was claiming that he saved us all from the do-nothing crowd when he was the do-nothing President! I'm sorry, but you don't get to measure your success against what would have happened if you had done nothing.

By the way, remember that Google corona-virus testing website that Trump promised on March 13th? He even had Dr. Birx stand up in front of the nation with a simple poster size flow-chart showing us how it would work. It turns out it was not being created by Google, but by a team of engineers at Oscar Health. Jared Kushner's younger brother Josh is co-founder, and the Kushner family are significant investors in Oscar Health. The website has suddenly, and mysteriously disappeared. The congressional investigative committee into the incompetent corona-virus response by this administration is going to make impeachment look pleasant.

James,Thanks for the information on the website. I wasn't aware of it. Oscar health seems like something they'd do...

Originally Posted by James Lacey

Trump hasn't changed. A change of tone in one briefing campaign rally is not proof of that. Besides, he was claiming that he saved us all from the do-nothing crowd when he was the do-nothing President! I'm sorry, but you don't get to measure your success against what would have happened if you had done nothing.

By the way, remember that Google corona-virus testing website that Trump promised on March 13th? He even had Dr. Birx stand up in front of the nation with a simple poster size flow-chart showing us how it would work. It turns out it was not being created by Google, but by a team of engineers at Oscar Health. Jared Kushner's younger brother Josh is co-founder, and the Kushner family are significant investors in Oscar Health. The website has suddenly, and mysteriously disappeared. The congressional investigative committee into the incompetent corona-virus response by this administration is going to make impeachment look pleasant.

Along similar lines, KellyANNE Conway, criticized Biden yesterday on Fox for not offering "assistance" to Mr Trump. This is the same KellyANNE who claimed the coronavirus had been "contained"...

As per Jim Acosta, who attended the WH briefing today, "This is a different kind of Donald Trump" "He is scared" "He gets It" This is the same Jim Acosta that the WH distains and Acosta has been critical of Trump in the past. That changed tonight. This is entirely different. 
Mask up/glove up if you have to go to the market or similar. Protect others and yourselves. This is life and death...

Originally Posted by Richard Davis

So now Russia is YOUR friend?  How neat.  Didn't you guys tell us Trump was a secret agent for Putin??

Make up your mind, are they bad or good?  

With 1.5 million cases in the USA by Easter Sunday, we'll need all the help can get...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gwGkQPnNOo

Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman

With 1.5 million cases in the USA by Easter Sunday, we'll need all the help can get...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gwGkQPnNOo

Rich, A Trumptiod like you should listen to this guy and then thank Russia for its help...

Originally Posted by Greg Shaffer

1st reported and confirmed case in China was Jan 10th, 1st confirmed case in the US was Jan 20th.....Trump started putting travel restrictions in place before the end of the month......seems reasonable and proactive to me.

Sadly it is going to get a lot worse before this thing peaks, I am particularly sad to see that GA as of today is pretty far up the ladder in terms of total reported cases ie 11th place....

While I continue to work, I am doing my best to limit my work to unoccupied homes if at all possible (most of my work is on new construction with a fairly deep backlog and mostly no one else is on site) and only making service calls where the occupants agree to vacate the premises while I am there and only if it is to address something essential or safety related......I wear disposable gloves and a mask if it is an occupied residence as well and use new gloves in each case. I have plenty of gloves as I buy them in bulk and had just restocked with 500 pair about a week before this thing hit......Masks on the other hand are more limited and at the rate I am using them up can last maybe a month, perhaps two.

Trump's "early response":
1"Trump also accused New York on Tuesday of getting off to a "very late start" in fighting the virus -- implicitly contrasting New York's leaders with himself. While leaders of both New York City and the state can be criticized for not acting sooner on the coronavirus, Trump himself did not even do the rhetorical minimum in January and February by urging political leaders or individual Americans to treat the virus as a major threat -- much less by urging them to take real action. And, critically, his administration was slow to take early action that experts say could have made a real difference in containing the virus before it spread nationally, such as deploying a large quantity of test kits."
2 "Trump himself repeatedly told Americans in February and early March to think of the coronavirus as the flu.
At the coronavirus briefing on February 26, for example, Trump said all of the following: "This is a flu. This is like a flu"; "Now, you treat this like a flu"; "It's a little like the regular flu that we have flu shots for. And we'll essentially have a flu shot for this in a fairly quick manner."
Just four days ago, on March 27, he said that you can call the coronavirus "a flu," or a virus or a germ."
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/31/politics/fact-check-trump-coronavirus-march-31/index.html

Today, April 1st,  Pence affixes blame for our delayed response (I'll cut to the chase: It was the CDC and China!):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rJH6cai-fs

The US blew right thru Dr Vunog prediction of 200,000 cases today for April 1st. If you have not viewed Dr Vunog's video, here's the link again:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gwGkQPnNOo

Originally Posted by James Lacey

That is still true; they did not downgrade their initial assessment. Again, the report by Neil Ferguson included a wide range of possible outcomes based on how much mitigation took place. With no social isolation, the model predicted 500K deaths, and with extreme mitigations practices, it predicted as few as 2,600 deaths. Those numbers, and many others in-between, were always part of the initial model. Anyone who looks at the report for themselves can see this fact for themselves. The number he testified to in front of Parliament is a number from his model, and in his words regarding this subject:

"I think it would be helpful if I cleared up some confusion that has emerged in recent days. Some have interpreted my evidence to a UK parliamentary committee as indicating we have substantially revised our assessments of the potential mortality impact of COVID-19. This is not the case. Indeed, if anything, our latest estimates suggest that the virus is slightly more transmissible than we previously thought. Our lethality estimates remain unchanged. My evidence to Parliament referred to the deaths we assess might occur in the UK in the presence of the very intensive social distancing and other public health interventions now in place. Without those controls, our assessment remains that the UK would see the scale of deaths reported in our study (namely, up to approximately 500 thousand)."

I can't believe you guys are still arguing over this, where's what is really important:
https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/gun-background-checks-smash-records-amid-coronavirus-fears/2339233/