Posts Made By: James Brown

Originally Posted by Greg Shaffer

Personally I hope Disney learns a hard lesson much like the Bud Light debacle. Corporations responsible to shareholders should be apolitical. Those corporate entities that dabble in politics and/or social reform should get rude awakenings just like those two are getting.

Bud got a rude awakening.  I am not sure if Disney is going to be the winner or loser in Florida.  Jim

Originally Posted by Richard Davis

Hopefully DeSantis will get into the race and it appears more and more likely that he will, almost a certainty.

When he does, and You vote for Joe Biden again, then you can reap the rewards, just like we are reaping with Joe Biden today.   

Why do you think DeSantis is a more likely candidate now, than you would have thought say 6 weeks ago? 

As I've mentioned many times, I am happy with my vote for Biden, given the candidates available to me.  Trump proved himself unworthy of the office and detrimental to the country, especially after the election results came in.   Hopefully we will never know what damage to the country Trump might inflict if given a second term.   I get it that subtlety is not a card in your deck.  You should understand however that lots of R's feel that our vote against Trump was the only proper choice, even though we are extremely disappointed with Biden.   Did you read the article Russ posted?   Theisen said it all very well.   

If DeSantis runs, and if he beats Trump in the primary, I will assess his candidacy and vote based upon my values, the candidate's platforms and so on.   Biden certainly does not have my vote, as you suggested.  Unless of course, we are stupid enough to nominate Trump again.

Jim 

Originally Posted by Greg Shaffer

Personally I hope Disney learns a hard lesson much like the Bud Light debacle. Corporations responsible to shareholders should be apolitical. Those corporate entities that dabble in politics and/or social reform should get rude awakenings just like those two are getting.

I disagree on one point here - I would guess Bud Light's former marketing VP was not trying to be overtly political.  She saw the Bud Light brand diminishing, and she targeted "new" consumers.   She probably thought it was a bold and daring move.  The new consumers were supposed to be the millions of followers of Dylan Mulvaney.  This was of course the worst marketing/advertising decision in the history of time because the  Tik Tok legions who think Mulvaney is worth following are never going to be Bud Light drinkers, and whatever  Bud Light loyalists still exist out there are appalled by Dylan Mulvaney.   Still, this can be viewed as a really bad, an extraordinarily bad marketing decision, without being intentionally political.   That's my take anyway, I'm probably wrong - but logically, what VP of marketing would intentionally tank their brand?   Disney is different because they could win in the long run.

Have any of you stodgy old guys asked your wife's opinion of Dylan Mulvaney?  My wife is offended by Mulvaney because the girl act is obviously predicated on mocking women as dumb, frivolous, flirty, weak, and vapid.  Mulvaney's schtick also mocks legit transgender people who want to live and let live.  I personally doubt he's legitimately transgender.  My wife would not be caught dead drinking a Bud Light in any case.   We both prefer the local craft brews.

Jim

Originally Posted by Russ Carroll

She probably wasn't a big fan of this, either 

Giulliani?  

Originally Posted by James Lacey

Anheuser-Busch stock dipped to $63.38 per share on 4/12/2023 when the "controversy" started.

On 03/31/2023, it was at a 6-month high of $66.73.

In October 2022, it was around $ 50.00 per share.

Today, it's $65.20 per share.

The conservative stodgy old-man backlash is not hurting Anheuser-Busch.

That said, using Dylan Mulvaney to advertise this brand is, at least on it's face, a legendarily dumb marketing move.  I could be wrong. 

I'm thinking of the meme stock GameStop.   The millennials have propped it up, perhaps irrationally, but still, they've propped it up.  Bed Bath and Beyond was not so lucky, it kind of got meme-ified, but then the stock price went down to about zero anyway. 

I personally can't imagine legions of millennials buying Anheuser Busch stock, or drinking bud light... but what do I really know, especially about millennials?  Jim 

Originally Posted by Richard Davis

guys like me don't matter.  

Agreed.

Originally Posted by Jim Moscheck

Jim's was funny as he quoted you.

Yours, not so much, so don't quit your day job.

If you even have one.

You know what is really tragic Jim...  In #31, Rod tee'd up a literal "once in a lifetime" opportunity for Rich to cleverly use his favorite taunt without coming across as a juvenile homophobe.  And Rich totally whiffed on it.  Jim

Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9_R502_RPs

Where do you get this stuff Rod?  This left-wing outrage guy/site equals any right-wing outrage porn ever posted by anyone on Astromart ever.   

I guess there is equivalent apatite for outrage on both sides of the aisle?

For those who choose not to watch it, this commentator is outraged at a pro-gun T-shirt held up by Lauren Boebert at a shooting range.  The T-shirt re-names an AR style rifle as a "cordless hole puncher," and thus is a dig at the woke crowd as well as being pro-gun.  I would agree the T-shirt is in poor taste.  Still, the commentator rants in the popular "high outrage" style of the finest NewsMax personalities that AR style rifles are not used to "poke holes in targets" and are not used to "poke holes wild animals" but are used to poke holes in human beings.  His message is clear, "assault rifles" (his words) exist only to kill people.  Furthermore, I'd say that he implies that Lauren Boebert is just fine with school shootings. The level of his lefty outrage is ridiculous.

As most of you know, I don't own guns.  Still, it seems only fair to call out another fine example of left-wing outrage porn since it is apparently as prevalent as the right-wing outrage porn that we are subjected to pretty much constantly.

Jim

Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman

Jim,
While I understand your point, I don't agree with it. The shirt isn't just in "poor taste"; it's reflective of the mindset that produces it in the first place. That's what I believe the commentator is referring to as well as the lack of response to mass shootings in any manner on the part of right extremists like Boebert and her ilk in congress other than to provide picture cards of their families at Christmas time with each merrily displaying their assault weaponry...

We certainly agree that the Christmas card with all the family AKs around the Christmas tree was in mind-bogglingly poor taste.  At least in my opinion!

Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman

Insurrection defined: "a violent uprising against an authority or government."
Proud Boys: "guilty: to forcibly prevent the peaceful transfer of power from then-President Donald Trump to Joe Biden after the 2020 election."
And you call Jan 6th "all that BS"...

The main difference I see between Greg's position and and yours Rod is in your different opinions about the scope of the overall event, Jan 6's proper place in history in other words.   Greg acknowledges that bad actors committed crimes and should pay the price.   Greg balks at the word "insurrection" though, because he sees Jan 6 as a pathetic, doomed, and entirely ineffective attempt to actually overthrow the government or to actually overturn the election.   

Greg, please correct my summary if I am reading you wrong.

Rod, you on the other hand are pretty careful not to come out and say it, but it seems to me that your opinion is different, it sounds like you think the proud boys and other criminals had a legitimate shot at stopping the transfer of power to Biden.  That this is an insurrection that failed, but just barely.   Maybe I am overstating it?  Let me know.  

One thing everyone seems to agree on is that those who committed crimes should be and are prosecuted.   Rich often argues the Jan 6 defendants are being over-zealously prosecuted.  I disagree.

Another thing we can all acknowledge, whether we like it or not, is that Jan 6 will forever be portrayed as a civil-war scale event by the Democrats and downplayed as a fairly routine riot by Republicans.  Such is politics.  Jim