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Posts Made By: Rod Kaufman

April 10, 2020 01:55 AM Forum: Politics

Covid-19 data and graphs

Posted By Rod Kaufman

Originally Posted by James Brown

His rhetoric was poor in that instance.  But here is why I agree with him:

"Attorney General William Barr late Wednesday suggested that the federal government in May should begin relaxing some of the "draconian" social distancing restrictions imposed throughout the U.S.


Barr said in an interview with Fox News that the U.S. had to be "very careful" to ensure some of the measures being "adopted are fully justified, and there are not alternative ways of protecting people" amid the novel coronavirus outbreak.

"I think, you know, when this — when this period of time is — at the end of April expires, I think we have to allow people to adapt more than we have and not just tell people to go home and hide under the bed, but allow them to use other ways — social distancing and other means — to protect themselves," he said."

I think that we will relax some measures, business closures for example, based upon local, hopefully in May, certainly in June.  People will slowly start to frequent restaurants again.  You can go back to work.  I am counting on the US being ready to test, trace and isolate - along the lines of Korea by then.  There are a lot of smart people working on this.

Regarding the second wave - of course this is possible.  But the world is our laboratory, and it will be interesting to see how things go in Korea, Israel, China, Spain and Italy.  These countries are ahead of us on the curve, and there will be pressure to cautiously return to normalcy there too.  We'll have a better idea by May what works and what does not work in the slow progression to normalcy.  The therapeutics research continues too of course.  There could very well be new therapies like the one out of Israel you mentioned or old therapies that have been adequately demonstrated to work pretty good by May.

I'm not suggesting that we sound an "All Clear" bell on May 1, followed by a massive orgy in the streets of NYC!  I did not get the impression from the article that this is what Barr is talking about either.

Jim
Jim, your reasoned approach is hopeful and optimistic as one would expect from you and I don't disagree with much of what you've stated here but I believe the average Fox news viewer lacks your cognitive skills and will likely fixate on the don't "hide under your bed" attitude for their takeaway on what Barr said. In my town, the Fox fans have been acting that way pretty-much all the way around...

April 10, 2020 02:39 AM Forum: Politics

Covid-19 data and graphs

Posted By Rod Kaufman

Here's Fox back at it yesterday:
On Wednesday, "Diamond & Silk" posted a tweet. "The only way we can become immune to the environment; we must be out in the environment," the duo declared. "Quarantining people inside of their houses for extended periods will make people sick!"
Twitter promptly took action against the tweet for violating its rules against coronavirus misinformation. The suggestion from the Fox News personalities is clearly dangerous. People should not be "out in the environment." Twitter required the two to remove the tweet in order to regain access to their account.
"The network is paying "Diamond & Silk" for their opinions and it doesn't seem to care much about the dangerous misinformation they disseminate."
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/08/media/fox-news-diamond-and-silk-reliable-sources/index.html

April 10, 2020 11:06 PM Forum: Politics

Covid-19 data and graphs

Posted By Rod Kaufman

I've been wondering why California hasn't been been hit just as hard or harder than New York, especially when you consider the number of homeless living here, and now it appears we may have an answer:
https://abc7news.com/coronavirus-covid-19-herd-immunity-california/6091220/

April 11, 2020 12:59 AM Forum: Politics

Covid-19 data and graphs

Posted By Rod Kaufman

Originally Posted by Russ Carroll
https://public.flourish.studio/visualisation/1712761/?fbclid=IwAR3C19wPUgQKjAVXqEwN_kGELRx3t4_XbbCHOpAgaHJdiKORHptPGTnNFtI


For all that said this is "just the flu"
If only we used HCQ sooner!....

April 11, 2020 01:06 AM Forum: Politics

Covid-19 data and graphs

Posted By Rod Kaufman

Jim, About those trenches in Russia...
https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/new-york-city-is-digging-trenches-to-bury-the-coronavirus-dead-20200410-p54iwb.html

April 11, 2020 02:44 AM Forum: Politics

Covid-19 data and graphs

Posted By Rod Kaufman

If we could just get a plot of the ones who were saved by HCQ...

April 11, 2020 03:14 AM Forum: Politics

Covid-19 data and graphs

Posted By Rod Kaufman

Originally Posted by Mel Maki

If wasn't so smart I could be all excited my chance of dying from heart disease just went way down!
Or up, if you used HCQ!

April 11, 2020 03:51 AM Forum: Politics

Covid-19 data and graphs

Posted By Rod Kaufman

Originally Posted by Greg Shaffer
Ooops.....You and Lacy need to go back to the drawing board Rod on continuing your rants against it as a viable treatment....The controlled studies are showing up now smile

https://www.contagionlive.com/news/results-from-a-controlled-trial-of-hydroxychloroquine-for-covid19?fbclid=IwAR2IkFfN7PHUdGwN5NmJiys6uJFR6CKNmAwGd9W1eYNvSE1INFiG7-fj7Dk
https://pubpeer.com/publications/71E74AD5896DCF99981A47917DE097
So much for your trial...I also saw this interesting comment:
This paper reports in the Introduction that a survey of 80 lupus patients in Wuhan taking HCQ found no developments of COVID-19.
However, COVID-19 Global Rheumatology Alliance reports that "25% of patients who developed a COVID-19 were on HCQ at the time of diagnosis".
https://twitter.com/rheum_covid/status/1245754373076115456

April 11, 2020 04:12 AM Forum: Politics

Covid-19 data and graphs

Posted By Rod Kaufman

"You must just be trolling."
Jim

Rich trolling? Never!...grin

April 11, 2020 04:51 AM Forum: Politics

Covid-19 data and graphs

Posted By Rod Kaufman

Originally Posted by Richard Davis

Not trolling, just keeping perspective and not WOWING because the numbers starting adding up.  We kind of KNEW this would happen.  

I look at things much different than do you. I don't freak out and I don't panic.

As soon as the Covid hit EPIDEMIC, you went insane.  

The FLU Is at EPIDEMIC Levels in this country.

The CDC system says any number above 7.2% on their scale is EPIDEMIC.

March 21, the FLU hit 7.3%.  EPIDEMIC.

Their latest Mar 28, weekly update had FLU at 8,2%.  0.9% ABOVE EPIDEMIC.

Are you freaking out?  shocked
Am I freaking out reading a troll? No...