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May 31, 2023 02:01 AM Forum: Politics

Biden/McCarthy Reach Deal

Posted By James Brown

Originally Posted by Jim Moscheck

But will it make it out of committee for a vote? That is the stickler, init?
Yes, it appears to be.   Why are the four Ds on the rules committee automatically assumed to vote "no" along with Chip Roy and the other freedom caucus guy?  In these circumstances, these Ds could easily assure passage out of committee.  At least it seems that way to me.  Any idea?

May 31, 2023 02:08 AM Forum: Politics

Biden/McCarthy Reach Deal

Posted By James Brown

Originally Posted by James Brown

Yes, it appears to be.   Why are the four Ds on the rules committee automatically assumed to vote "no" along with Chip Roy and the other freedom caucus guy?  In these circumstances, these Ds could easily assure passage out of committee.  At least it seems that way to me.  Any idea?
"Rules: The beginning of any process to bring a major bill to the floor is taking it to the House Rules Committee. Rules preps the bill by setting the parameters for debate. A bill of this nature won’t be subject to amendments since opening up the legislation to last-minute changes will kill it. The Rules Committee will meet at 3 p.m. Tuesday.

But getting it out of Rules intact may be a challenge. The committee has nine Republicans and four Democrats. Three conservative Republicans on the panel – Reps. Tom Massie (Ky.), Ralph Norman (S.C.) and Chip Roy (Texas) – have railed against the bill publicly. If all three vote no, GOP leadership will need Democrats to get the bill through Rules.

Senior House Democratic sources have told us that it’s the GOP’s responsibility to move the legislation out of Rules and, at this point, they don’t intend to provide votes. “Why would we do that?” one senior House Democratic leadership aide told us Sunday night."


https://punchbowl.news/archive/52923-punchbowl-news-am/


Why would we (the Ds) do that?  Duh, to advance the bill, avoid default, and possibly avoid a second Trump term.   Sounds like Massie might vote to pass this from rules, but if he does not and the Ds refuse to step up, there is blood on all of their hands.  I'm assuming default would indeed be cataclysmic.   When I read things like "why would we do that..." it makes me wonder whether any of the Ds or Rs believe their own probably over-heated rhetoric...  Jim

May 31, 2023 05:16 AM Forum: Politics

Biden/McCarthy Reach Deal

Posted By James Brown

Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman
It looks like the MAGA's stated intent to block the bill in the rules committee will fail as a key holdout reportedly will vote for the deal. "Chip" Roy and the so-called freedom caucus can scream all they want but, at the end of the day, cooler heads are apparently prevailing...
Yay!  I hope you are correct.

p.s. it seems like the D's are missing a strategic play here.  They could have had the 4 Ds on the rules committee vote to advance the bill, and then advertised, perhaps correctly, that the R caucus is such a disaster that they could not even advance their own speaker's bill out of the rules committee without D intervention.

Jim 

May 31, 2023 10:46 PM Forum: Politics

Biden/McCarthy Reach Deal

Posted By James Brown

Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman
It looks like the MAGA's stated intent to block the bill in the rules committee will fail as a key holdout reportedly will vote for the deal. "Chip" Roy and the so-called freedom caucus can scream all they want but, at the end of the day, cooler heads are apparently prevailing...
All four Ds voted against passing the bill from the rules committee.   Are they MAGA freaks now?   I wish someone could explain this to me.  Seems the Ds are just as willing to play politics with our financial well being as any R might be.

Jim

June 1, 2023 01:08 AM Forum: Politics

Biden/McCarthy Reach Deal

Posted By James Brown

Originally Posted by James Lacey


It's a ceremonial "No" vote. They know they have the votes to pass it otherwise, but some will still vote no on principle. The same will happen on the other side.
Hi James,

I suppose, but given the level of doomsday rhetoric surrounding the debt ceiling, why would the Ds on the rules committee indulge in a ceremonial no vote on an issue of extreme importance to the country and to Biden?  You've no doubt noted that the Ds want to blame the "risk" of catastrophic, "end of the world" default on Maga Rs, yet they still indulge themselves with ceremonial no votes because of some minor funding cuts?   Consider the D below, who preemptively blamed MAGA for a default, and then indulged in a no vote at the rules committee!!

Either the passage of this bill is guaranteed, such that all of the drama is fake, or the threat level of failure to pass the bill is wildly overstated.   

As it is, McCarthy is going to be better positioned than Biden or any D to claim that he saved the economy from annihilation.   Why would the Ds give that victory to McCarthy?  It makes no political sense to me.   Jim

June 1, 2023 04:30 AM Forum: Politics

Biden/McCarthy Reach Deal

Posted By James Brown

Originally Posted by Greg Shaffer
Come on guys.....its just more of the same ol kabuki theater DC engages in every time this issue comes up.....so they can all claim they are fighting the good fight while they collectively shove more bad deals down our throats. But then you have as much right to your outrage as I have to make fun of it smile
I agree.  A lot of this does seem overly theatrical, which is my point of course.  Who is outraged?  Disgusted with Congress perhaps, but then again, who is not!   Jim    

June 1, 2023 04:36 AM Forum: Politics

Biden/McCarthy Reach Deal

Posted By James Brown

Originally Posted by Greg Shaffer


You read the same thread as me.....you should know lol
I re-skimmed the thread.  I guess you mean Rod?  FWIW, I'm not seeing any outrage from Rod.  He detests R policies as usual, but Rod seems quite measured and rational in his dialog.   I guess post #4 was outrageously stupid, but nothing new there.   So I remain puzzled.  Jim

June 1, 2023 05:06 AM Forum: Politics

Biden/McCarthy Reach Deal

Posted By James Brown

Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman

This article from TheHill may offer the explanation you're seeking:
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4028918-house-gets-debt-ceiling-bill-over-key-procedural-hurdle-with-democratic-help/
Yes, I see it, "because of an old House tradition that members of the minority party tend to oppose all rules, even when they support the underlying legislation."  Thanks, seems like a dumb tradition to me.  The bill is well on it's way to passage.   Jim

June 1, 2023 10:07 PM Forum: Politics

Cons Wanna Boycott Chick-fil-A!!!

Posted By James Brown

Originally Posted by James Lacey


Now, instead of God's Chicken, it's Woke Chicken. I never understood why so many people love Chik-fil-a; it's mediocre food at best. Regardless though, after reading the article, it sounds to me like the corporate wing (no pun intended) of Chik-fil-a is realizing that to be competitive in the future, they have to trend towards more diversity and inclusivity, not only in their advertising but also in their workforce policies. Otherwise, they will lose out on a vast market share, i.e., there are not enough white evangelical Christian customers, employees, and investors to prop the company up forever. Kudos to them even if they are forced to behave ethically by capitalist interests.
Other than being closed on Sunday, Chick-fil-A has done hardly anything to reflect it's founder's Christianity.   They hire LBGTQ employees, and the alleged cash support of an anti-LBGT conversion therapy group was insignificant and long ago rectified.   I researched that issue once.  It literally was nothing, but the myth lives on.

I like their food (relative to other fast food).   More importantly, I like their clean facilities and well-trained friendly staff.  During the pandemic, their drive through operations, at least in Colorado, were amazing, and unique among fast foods.  They had multiple car lines, kids with masks and iPads taking orders in the parking lots and so on.   Chick Fil-A sure appears to be a well run company, top to bottom.  Jim

June 2, 2023 07:33 AM Forum: Politics

For the Communist Democrat Party, burning a Gay Pride flag is a HATE crime....

Posted By James Brown

Originally Posted by Russ Carroll


Do you think it was a crime?
Rich is trying to twist his way out of acknowledging that he missed the point you raise completely.  Of course burning someone else's flag is a crime.  Is it a hate crime?  I bet that depends on the motivation of the burner, but I have not yet read the CA statute to see.  Is the CA hate crime statute constitutional?   That depends on a lot of things, I might read the statute and post my opinion tomorrow.   Was Greg amused that this story so completely outraged Richard?   Maybe he'll let us know.  Jim