Posts Made By: Rod Kaufman

Originally Posted by Mel Maki

Some people are claiming the JP Morgan study shows lockdowns don't work if there is already a lot of virus in the area. They claim European countries that locked down have not done better than countries that didn't. They are claiming similar results in some areas of the US adding that 20 states coming out of the lockdown do not have raising rates. I would wait awhile before claiming a victory there.
Though the HK-China border passes 2.5 million a month and the government is not very effective they are claiming death is remarkable low because the citizens have dealt with SARS and Hong Kong Flu and are experts at social distancing.
Critics of lockdowns also say they destroy the health care system. Surveys show 4 out of 5 people are afraid to go to the ER for heart attacks, strokes, and other problems that can worsen. Cancer screenings are down 90%.
Deaths of despair are up 75,000, higher from no jobs, drug abuse, and alcohol abuse. They are claiming these deaths will be higher than virus deaths.

Originally Posted by Greg Shaffer

Given Trump and his admins started recommending lockdowns just 2 days after it was recommended by the appointed experts what kind of disinformation are you spouting Rod? lol

Originally Posted by Richard Davis

I don't play guessing games the way you do, as the facts are that nobody can possibly know even you, Oh Great Oracle.

I  do know how much the suicide hot lines have increased in their phone calls though.  The reports are that the increases are 10 fold.  

Care to discuss that?  

I know that many businesses are closing for good in the USA. How many jobs will be lost forever there?

Care to discuss that?

I know that many thousands of restaurants will go under for good because of the Corona virus lockdowns mandated by gov't bureaucrats.  

Care to discuss that?  

Well known pediatricians have written articles in medical journals saying that the damage to children due to keeping them out of school  because of this Corona Virus lockdown could be long lasting.  

Care to discuss that?  

I know that Doctors are being given orders by their bosses to list Corona virus deaths when they weren't comfortable calling them Corona virus deaths which necessarily Inflated the numbers of deaths CAUSED by Corona Virus.

Care to discuss that?  (Don't worry, I've already been told by you that even thinking that is tantamount to being an Obama birther)

The CDC came out with numbers that show Corona virus deaths are nowhere near the initial estimates that it would kill 3.4 out of every 100 people that contracted the virus.  It turns out that the death toll is less than 1/10 of that number on the order of 2.6 people out of every 1000 (not 100).

Care to discuss that?  

Florida has 2 Million MORE people than NY State, yet they have 1/12 the number of deaths that NY state has.  NY state has 30,000 deaths.  Florida has 2500. 

Care to discuss that?  Why don't you explain that, so that we can all get an idea into your brilliance when you imply that the lockdowns saved all kinds of lives.

If they did, explain the discrepancy there.  

You have a one-track mind of "How many would have had if we had not mitigated" because it not only strokes your ego and supports your statement a few months back saying "It Is Worth It", when you had NO idea whether or not it was Worth It.

We will know YEARS from now whether or not it was Worth It.

P.S. Anthony Fauci and the CDC have changed their minds more than I change my socks.  

Fully 30% of all the deaths were at Nursing homes. 

The CDC told us that you could get from hard surfaces.  Then the CDC changed their minds on that.  

Take out those numbers and you get a severe year of the Flu.  

Care to discuss any of those issues above, which do not fit your narrative that the lockdowns and destruction of the economy was "Worth It"?  

Oh, and I forgot to add, I'm just curious..

P.P.S.

One last thing counselor, I neglected to mention that there could be a REASON that NY State has SO many deaths due to Corona Virus.

Would you like to hear my theory, because my guess is that you'll discount it as being on a par with believing in Bigfoot.

But here goes anyway.  

My thoughts have been for some months now that many patients in NY were denied HCQ, Z-Pac, and Zinc which may have kept them from getting well, which in turn may have caused many needless deaths, for we will never know if they could have been saved by the Trio of drugs above, because Cuomo wouldn't let them have those drugs.

Here's an article about it:

https://gellerreport.com/2020/04/governor-cuomo-denying-new-yorkers-hydroxychloroquine.html/

Care to discuss that?  

Originally Posted by Greg Shaffer

That is what you get for thinking when you are not used to it..... "Forest" in this case is an analogous term for idiot of the day....along the lines of "if the shoe fits........"