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December 21, 2023 04:43 PM Forum: Politics

Colorado SCOTUS Kicks Trump Off Ballot

Posted By James Brown

Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman
"In a major legal blow to Trump, the court affirmed he engaged in insurrection by inflaming his supporters with false claims of election fraud and directing them to the Capitol — preventing him from a second White House term under the 14th Amendment’s “insurrection clause.”
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/4368569-trump-kicked-off-colorado-ballot-in-14th-amendment-case/

Of course, Trump's people at SCOTUS, starting with Gini Thomas, oops, I mean her husband, Clarence, will quickly hear and overturn the case. Clarence probably has his reason already stamped on his forehead and he will simply email, fax or phone it in or have one his lackeys on his staff do it or they'll all go on speakerphone and sing it like a holiday carol...
I'm curious if anyone who posts here thinks kicking Trump off the ballot in Colorado, or any other state is a good political strategy?  Assuming of course that one's goal is keeping Trump out of the White House.   

Hopefully my own position is clear.   These tactics, even if legally justified, are going to put Trump back in office.   I will be blaming the activists, over-zealous prosecutors, and Democrats when Trump wins in 2024.   Anyone willing to defend these strategies?  Anyone think these court cases are going to hurt Trump politically?

December 22, 2023 04:09 PM Forum: Politics

"Over Half Of Americans Approve Of Colorado Ruling"

Posted By James Brown

Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman

Of course, but that's not my point in posting this. I posted this in order to counter the outrage narrative on MAGA medias that makes it appear that everybody thinks this is a bogus  and politically motivated decision by the court...
Ok, that is a reasonable point.

December 22, 2023 04:13 PM Forum: Politics

Colorado SCOTUS Kicks Trump Off Ballot

Posted By James Brown

Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman

There's an obvious reason why John Eastment and Kenneth Cheseboro wanted to do the following:

"Trump’s Lawyers Reportedly Wanted Clarence Thomas To Help Overturn 2020 Election, Emails Show"

"Trump’s legal team wanted Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas to rule on their lawsuits challenging the 2020 election because they believed he would be their “only chance” at a ruling that could overturn the results, emails reported by Politico show, as Thomas has already come under fire for participating in election-related cases as his wife supported efforts to challenge the vote count."
 
"Trump’s attorneys should frame a lawsuit over Georgia’s election result “so that Thomas could be the one to issue” an order “saying Georgia is in legitimate doubt,” Trump attorney Kenneth Cheseboro wrote in an email on December 31, 2020, Politico reports."

"Trump attorney John Eastman responded, “I think I agree with this,” Politico reports, adding such a ruling by Thomas could “kick the Georgia legislature into gear” and persuade them to overturn the results—noting he received messages from legislators “indicating to me they’re leaning that way.”"


https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2022/11/02/trumps-lawyers-reportedly-wanted-clarence-thomas-to-help-overturn-2020-election-emails-show/?sh=56f10e334a82
Let's assume all of the above is true.  I have no reason to think it is not.  Then, did Thomas rule in favor of Trump and overturn the election?  Is Trump now our president?

December 22, 2023 04:47 PM Forum: Politics

"Over Half Of Americans Approve Of Colorado Ruling"

Posted By James Brown

Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman

Of course, but that's not my point in posting this. I posted this in order to counter the outrage narrative on MAGA medias that makes it appear that everybody thinks this is a bogus  and politically motivated decision by the court...
Hi Rod:

I want to try to make a point before the holidays start to roll in earnest (my kids are arriving this evening).   

1.  Judges have legal/philosophical biases - to the extent "bias" is a loaded word, it would be better to say that judges have core legal philosophies.  Some judges have legal philosophies that are aligned with conservative political thought, like a rather strict adherence to the words of the Constitution, and strict enforcement of the separation of powers.   This is why a Judge with a "conservative" legal philosophy  would oppose Roe v. Wade - it is an example of the Court taking over the job of the legislature, since there is no authority expressly in the Constitution for the Court determining health care.   On the other hand, Some Judges have liberal legal philosophies.  These justices might be less concerned about the literal words of the Constitution or the intent of long-dead framers.   A Judge with a liberal judicial philosophy would interpret the Constitution in the context of the needs of modern society - so a liberal Judge would favor Roe v. Wade because the law had been developing for a long time in the direction of a woman's right to choose being legally superior to the state's right to regulate abortion, but only earlier in pregnancy.   

2.  In my view there is nothing wrong or immoral with either judicial philosophy.  Both schools of thought are defensible.  Richard obviously thinks that liberal judicial philosophies are invalid, corrupt, and unequivocally illegitimate.   He is wrong.  Anyone who thinks great legal minds like RGB, Warren, or now Justice Brown-Jackson held/hold judicial philosophies that are invalid, corrupt, and unequivocally illegitimate is just being foolish.   These are brilliant Justices with great minds and long careers.  I have accused you of the same fallacy with respect to conservative judicial philosophies - at least when you argue that Thomas's decisions are invalid, corrupt, and unequivocally illegitimate.  To my knowledge, Thomas has never made a decision that was inconsistent with his core judicial philosophy.  Politics have nothing to do with it.

3.  I wish the Court would adopt a stronger ethics code, but I do not think Thomas needs to recuse himself from an election case because his wife is an activist.  If his rich friends have a case before the Court, he must recuse himself.   Sotomayor should think about this too.

4.  Justices have political biases too - but I do not think you can cite an example of a modern Supreme Court Justice rendering a decision that contradicts their core judicial philosophy because of political bias.

5.  It aggravates me when people like the MAGA crowd you cited argue that the CO Supreme Court acted out of clear and obvious political bias to render as you put it well, "a bogus  and politically motivated decision"  This instance obviously aggravates you too.

6.  If the US Supreme Court overturns the CO Supreme Court, I will bet everything I own that the left will argue loud and stridently that this was a "a bogus  and politically motivated decision"  Are you going to be joining the left in that argument?  On what basis?  I think you will join in with the "bogus  and politically motivated decision" crowd, and that aggravates me too.  

7.  Here is the point - I think it is BS, to argue that any of these decisions are "bogus  and politically motivated."   The justices on both courts have a great deal of integrity.  These are close cases where both sides have defensible arguments.  The different decisions (assuming The Supremes overturn Colorado) are the result of different judicial philosophies, not some overt political bias in either case.

That's about the best I can do on this issue.  Have a happy holiday! - Jim

December 29, 2023 04:29 PM Forum: Politics

To my friends here on the political forum

Posted By James Brown

Originally Posted by Jim Moscheck
Hope everyone is having a great year end. My knee is feeling better, but the tendons are still very sore and weak.

Anyways, my daughter gave me this ornament.

In my case add knee, wrist, and elbow after ankle which I do think I rolled just before the knee twisted. Most of the pain the last week has been my shin and ankle, the knee is just weak but less pain.
Excellent!  I am glad you are getting better!

January 1, 2024 04:11 PM Forum: Politics

At Least 20% Of GenZ' Have Positive View Of Bin Laden...

Posted By James Brown

Originally Posted by David Cotterell

Because.....

".....Among the participants between the ages of 18 and 29, 31%...."  were of Muslim or Middle Eastern descent.

and

".....one in ten voters under the age of 30..."  were of Muslim or Middle Eastern descent.

Depending on where in England they did the surveying...there are some very muslim towns and neighborhoods...

Dave
OK, but why are these particular Muslims supporting terrorism and murder?  I agree with Rod's initial assessment.

January 2, 2024 07:03 PM Forum: Politics

At Least 20% Of GenZ' Have Positive View Of Bin Laden...

Posted By James Brown

Originally Posted by David Cotterell

My thoughts were to posit an explanation, not an excuse...

Dave
Hi Dave, I understood that you were not making excuses or taking sides.   I could have phrased my reply better.  Jim

January 16, 2024 07:50 PM Forum: Politics

Trump: Vote For Him Even If You Die Doing It!

Posted By James Brown

Originally Posted by James Lacey


Wow! That's quite the list of lies and misinformation. But, regarding Trump, whatever happens to him is because of his actions. Trump was indicted by grand juries made of American citizens that have nothing to do with Joe Biden. There is no evidence that Joe Biden or the Justice Department interfered or influenced any of the investigations by states like New York and Georgia.
Hi James, Rod - I'm waiting for the New Hampshire and South Carolina primaries before giving up all hope that someone other than Trump will be the R nominee, but obviously I'm not optimistic.  Assuming Trump is the nominee, I sure would like the Ds to run someone other than Biden.   Nothing new there, but it is pretty much "now or never" time.....  

Jim

January 17, 2024 06:49 PM Forum: Politics

Trump: Vote For Him Even If You Die Doing It!

Posted By James Brown

Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman

I'd take it then that you might agree with most of what's in this WSJ editorial:

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4412088-wsj-tells-desantis-drop-out-make-way-for-haley-v-trump/
Yes

January 17, 2024 07:07 PM Forum: Politics

Project 2025.

Posted By James Brown

Originally Posted by David Cotterell
Summarized here.

Highlights......

Removal of protections from discrimination for LGBTQ people.

Removal of the separation of Church and State. 

Removal of regulations on industry .

Banning of abortion drugs like mifepristone in every state.  Complete nationwide ban on abortion.  

Gutting of regulations and international agreements previously signed by the USA to reduce carbon emissions.

Expansion of Presidential powers, placing the entire executive branch under direct presidential control.
.....................................................................................................................................................
Some of this will require constitutional alterations, removal or extreme changes to some of the amendments, and court support to do this at all levels.  If you think that they haven't thought of that consider this: Plans to replace up to 50 000 bureaucrats and judges at state and federal levels with dedicated extreme right wing people have been clearly stated. A database has already been undertaken with a questionnaire to discern these far-right  leanings in those working in courts and as civil servants etc.  With the correct bodies in place they can accomplish their goals within the next administration's term (assuming R's win the 2024 presidential elections) which would pretty much assure that there won't BE a 2028 election...

Project 2025 isn't just some loony-tunes conspiracy - it really exists, it has very powerful and wealthy backing from the Kochs et al and they have clearly,  unequivocally, and publicly stated their goals .  Their Website. Read all about it.

You should be very, very afraid of a Republican presidential win this fall, whether it is Trump or someone else.  

Civil discussion to follow........

Dave
Hi Dave:

I don't doubt that the Heritage Foundation has a wish-list of "policy dreams" that will shock you and other folks who are left of center.  You vastly overestimate the ability of the Heritage Foundation and like minded people on the far right to enact much of this.   Project 2025 is a lot like the Green New Deal in two ways - it is written to rally the far right base (or far left base in the case of the GND), and it is used by the other side for fund raising as if there was clear and present risk of it being enacted in its entirety.

I do want to be civil, but there is no need be "very, very afraid of a Republican presidential win this fall, whether it is Trump or someone else."  (Sure hope it is someone else!)   I am afraid you are being overly influenced by fear-mongers on the left.   Jim