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Posts Made By: Rod Kaufman

July 23, 2020 04:33 AM Forum: Politics

Secret Police?

Posted By Rod Kaufman

Originally Posted by Darian Rachal

No, it isn't obvious. What was he saying to the police? Perhaps they asked him to move on and he resisted. Perhaps he said something extremely derogatory and provoked them.  Nothing in the video makes me sympathetic to this cretin. Typical CNN bulls***. It's really laughable. 
If you wish to get your "panties in a wad" about what happened to this bozo feel free. He's free to file a lawsuit if he was unjustly treated.
Yeah it is obvious to anyone who can look at it objectively and that just as obviously doesn't include you...

July 23, 2020 10:20 PM Forum: Politics

Secret Police?

Posted By Rod Kaufman

Originally Posted by James Brown

Hi Rod:

I agree with you and James on the complete wrongness of the civil liberties violations alleged to be occurring.  But this is a fact sensitive issue.  I'm not nearly as sure as you that we have the accurate facts.  In 2020 it is dangerous to say "it was obvious from the video".  It was pretty obvious from the video that Nicholas Sandman was a smug bastard who was taunting that poor old Indian protester who was just minding his own business....

We all know how that one turned out.

So, I agree with Darian concerning the reliability of this source.  Whether or not the agents are violating the activists civil liberties is going to be determined, but by consideration of a lot of evidence, not just a viral video.

Jim
Jim,
I agree with some of the above and I think the video is one data point. Specific to it, there's no evidence to suggest the vet in question was either provocative and/or resisting. That much is clear. Concurrent with that, there are multiple officers either beating him with a baton or macing him. So, in this case, it's as obvious as it's going to get unless you believe the video is either doctored or fails to show something nobody sees and/or has been reported by the agents on the scene. At this point, however,  the video is uncontested...

July 23, 2020 10:45 PM Forum: Politics

Secret Police?

Posted By Rod Kaufman

Originally Posted by James Brown

Hi Rod:

I agree with you and James on the complete wrongness of the civil liberties violations alleged to be occurring.  But this is a fact sensitive issue.  I'm not nearly as sure as you that we have the accurate facts.  In 2020 it is dangerous to say "it was obvious from the video".  It was pretty obvious from the video that Nicholas Sandman was a smug bastard who was taunting that poor old Indian protester who was just minding his own business....

We all know how that one turned out.

So, I agree with Darian concerning the reliability of this source.  Whether or not the agents are violating the activists civil liberties is going to be determined, but by consideration of a lot of evidence, not just a viral video.

Jim
One more thing, specific to Sandman. We all know how that one turned out may be generally true but the terms of the case are sealed. CNN may have settled it as a nuisance suit without an an imposition of wrongdoing on anyone's part. CNN may have settled it because they considered the case might be heard in a state wherein the political climate is such that they didn't want to incur the risk associated with it. These are possibilities and I can think of others...

July 24, 2020 01:15 AM Forum: Politics

Secret Police?

Posted By Rod Kaufman

Originally Posted by Richard Davis

You mocked Nick Sandman and his lawyers at the time, saying CNN wouldn't have to pay a dime.  You laughed about it over and over.

You talked how the lawsuit was dismissed and was a joke.

My guess is that CNN paid Nick Sandman and his lawyer a pretty penny for their slander of him, 100s of Thousands if not in the Millions. 

Guess you were proven mightily wrong weren't you?  Nick Sandman had the last laugh didn't he?  wink
Don't tell me what I said or did and don't put words in my mouth...

July 24, 2020 02:10 AM Forum: Politics

Secret Police?

Posted By Rod Kaufman

Originally Posted by Richard Davis

Is the fact that you were wrong, stinging?  tongue
Since the terms of the case are closed, you don't that...

July 24, 2020 04:02 AM Forum: Politics

Secret Police?

Posted By Rod Kaufman

Originally Posted by Mel Maki
I wish the terms were known. CNN doesn't. Do you?
That makes about as much sense as the stuff from Davis...

July 24, 2020 04:04 AM Forum: Politics

Secret Police?

Posted By Rod Kaufman

Originally Posted by James Lacey


We all look forward to the same level of indifference when the Democrats control Congress and the White House and pass sweeping new gun control legislation and then send anonymously clad federal agents into Red states and cities to enforce law and order.
We may not have to wait that long. If Trump won't leave after he loses the election, the feds will have to move in and escort him out...

July 25, 2020 12:12 AM Forum: Politics

Secret Police?

Posted By Rod Kaufman

A Trump campaign ad:
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-campaign-ad-ukraine/

July 20, 2020 07:51 AM Forum: Politics

Trump Fox Interview

Posted By Rod Kaufman

Originally Posted by Mel Maki
I watched a president that does not speak like he has lost a lot. Biden does speak like he has lost a lot. I understand people that just despise Trump. Fair enough. But people that follow politics and say Biden could also do the same interview are not being honest. Period. This is not a close call. Fine elect Biden. But don't try to convince everybody that Biden has not slipped a lot, he has. I would not put my kids into a car that Biden was driving to the store.
You obviously haven't watched Biden on CNN town hall forums. His last interview/interrogation by members of the media went so well that Trump resorted to his bogus claim that the media had fed their questions to him in advance. No gaffs at all. Watched the Fox interview, Trump had his lunch fed to him by Wallace...

July 21, 2020 01:33 AM Forum: Politics

Trump Fox Interview

Posted By Rod Kaufman

Looking at Trump's mortality rate claim:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/20/politics/donald-trump-coronavirus-mortality-rate-intl/index.html