Posts Made By: Rod Kaufman

Originally Posted by Mel Maki

So those people to your right just aren't as smart as you?

Originally Posted by Mel Maki

You can't know what you don't know.

Originally Posted by Richard Davis

I'll do better than that.  

I'll give you Bill Barr's opinion on it, as he laid it out completely last night as to just how "reckless" and "irresponsible" it would be to have mail in voting right now.

The entire summation of Bill Barr

The question posed to Bill Barr:  "Doesn't it lend itself to great opportunity for fraud"?

William Barr's Response:  "Yes, I think it is grossly irresponsible to be doing what the Democratic party is doing now. We've had very close races in recent history.  The country is divided. If anything we should be insuring the integrity of our elections so that Government going forward will be legitimate and will be accepted as legitimate.  The idea of conducting elections by wholesale mail-in  ballots is reckless and wrong.  Everyone knows what has happened in these cases. We're not talking about voters going and requesting a ballot specifically saying who they are, proving who they are, and then submitting a ballot by mail.

We're talking about mail outs to everyone on the mailing and every experience with that has had thousands and thousands of ballots floating around, not just the state but the country.

I have friends who haven't lived in California in 21 years who received ballots.  There are ballots left in boxes in apartment buildings. Ballots are for people who used to live at addresses are delivered to those addresses.  They can be filled out by anybody. 

This is reckless. And it could create serious questions about the integrity of the election.  And to do this when we are a closely divided country as we are, is playing with fire in my view. 

So then explain away Barr's very cogent appraisal of it.

P.S. One has to be a complete IDIOT to assert that mail in voting doesn't invite fraud.

There are a few here who are dumb enough to believe that.  You being one of them. 

And btw numbskull, I did provide numerous ways this could lead to massive fraud, massive errors, and massive delays. 

I guess you missed the posting.  

Originally Posted by James Brown

Rich will be mailing in his ballot of course, or maybe dropping it off.  As I mentioned a few weeks ago, Colorado has been a "mail-in" state for many years.  It works great here.  I have described our system in detail, there are many security checks.   Is fraud possible?  Of course, fraud is possible with any system.  There is no evidence that the state of Colorado experiences any more ballot fraud than traditional voting states.  

I have asked Rich about this many times, but not surprisingly, he refuses to answer questions about any difference between the fraud rates in Colorado and other states.  He prefers to speculate about how much fraud is possible, rather than rationally discussing how much fraud actually occurs in the existing mail-in states. 

Jim

Originally Posted by James Brown

The resume of the Colorado Secretary of State, Jena Griswold; who has become a national figure helping other states assure that their mail in systems are reasonably safe and effective:

Jena Marie Griswold is Colorado’s 39th Secretary of State, and began her term on January 8, 2019. She is the youngest elected Secretary of State in the United States. Griswold grew up in a working-class family in rural Colorado and was the first person in her family to attend a four-year college and then law school. She knows first-hand how important it is for every vote to count and for every Coloradan's voice to be heard, no matter their background or income. She will protect our right to vote, fight secret political spending, improve transparency, and stand up to those who try to bend the rules or break the law.

Griswold has practiced international anti-corruption law and worked as a voter protection attorney, where she made sure Coloradans were able to participate in our democracy. She served as the Director of the Governor of Colorado’s DC Office, advocating on behalf of Colorado in D.C. During that time, Griswold was instrumental in bringing back hundreds of millions of relief dollars to help the Colorado communities hit by the 2013 flood. Before her election to Colorado Secretary of State, Griswold ran her own small business, a legal practice in Louisville.

Griswold holds a B.A. in Politics and Spanish Literature from Whitman College and a J.D from University of Pennsylvania Law School. Griswold is fluent in Spanish and a graduate of Estes Park High School in Estes Park, Colorado. In 2006, Griswold was awarded the Watson Fellowship, and in 2009, the Penn Law International Human Rights Fellowship. Griswold lives in Louisville, Colorado.

So, according to an alleged 'cabinet maker' and locally well known internet crank, this woman is a "complete IDIOT."  I don't think those words mean what Rich thinks they mean.

Jim

Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman

Well, I've checked and thus far I can't find any reports of the Trump campaign providing evidence that mail in voting will result in fraud. OTH, we have Bill Barr's personal opinion on Fox news Hannity that it will. Can't wait for the federal judge to render his decision in September...