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Posts Made By: James Brown

July 14, 2024 02:10 PM Forum: Politics

What rhetoric caused the violence that caused an Assassination attempt on Trump? Probably those who call him Hitler and say he's a threat to Democracy

Posted By James Brown
Originally Posted by James Lacey


Rich was obviously cocked and loaded (too soon?) and ready to go off on the first person who posted anything in response to Chris; Russ was merely the unfortunate recipient of Rich's now-famous toxic and disproportionate responses. The funny thing is that Rich's behavior is far more offensive than what he thinks Russ did. Only Rich has this legendary lack of self-awareness.

Russ is right. There is inappropriate rhetoric on both sides, and any honest accounting clearly shows that the right-wing wins in the violent political rhetoric category. Both sides should wake up and cut it out in an ideal world, but we all know that will not happen. Trump was pumping his fist in the air and saying, "Fight, fight, fight!" immediately after it happened. I have no doubt Trump will use this incident as a rallying cry and call it a left-wing effort to silence him. It will appeal to his supporters' emotions, grievances, and victimhoods, and they will never see how the incendiary rhetoric of Trump and the MAGA movement helped to lead us to this moment.
We disagree on this James.  I agree with Richard, and presumably Greg and Chris, that it is far more likely that the left's "Existential Threat to Democracy/fascist/Hitler" rhetoric led us to this moment.

July 14, 2024 02:14 PM Forum: Politics

What rhetoric caused the violence that caused an Assassination attempt on Trump? Probably those who call him Hitler and say he's a threat to Democracy

Posted By James Brown
Originally Posted by Richard Davis



THIS Is what Russ actually posted in its entirety:  

"Why on earth would you think ANYONE on this forum would defend this???

In addition to praying that nobody including Trump was hurt, my hope is that all of the violent rhetorical speech that emanates from Trump and the MAGA crowd will finally stop. Non-peaceful political discourse victimizes every side".

Since you want to, in all your buffoonish nature, excuse his words, those were the ENTIRE Words in his posting, period.

Yes, that did happen, even though you want to play off his words. 

Because you simply are unable to read that man Russ and understand that he's a SICK, demented, TDS filled lunatic, doesn't change the fact that he's a SICK, demented, TDS filled lunatic.

So go ahead and point out where he chastised both sides of the Political aisle.  

People like Russ Carroll are the most dangerous threat to other people in this nation.
I've explained why I think the misunderstanding arose above.  But I took Russ's words literally, and as he has explained that is how he meant them.  "my hope is that all of the violent rhetorical speech that emanates from Trump and the MAGA crowd will finally stop. Non-peaceful political discourse victimizes every side"

I hope that too!  I bet you agree too.  It would be nice for the R party to take the high ground again.  That said, I also hope that the left drops the "End of Democracy" BS.  We all know neither will happen.

July 14, 2024 02:24 PM Forum: Politics

What rhetoric caused the violence that caused an Assassination attempt on Trump? Probably those who call him Hitler and say he's a threat to Democracy

Posted By James Brown
Originally Posted by James Lacey


Rich was obviously cocked and loaded (too soon?) and ready to go off on the first person who posted anything in response to Chris; Russ was merely the unfortunate recipient of Rich's now-famous toxic and disproportionate responses. The funny thing is that Rich's behavior is far more offensive than what he thinks Russ did. Only Rich has this legendary lack of self-awareness.

Russ is right. There is inappropriate rhetoric on both sides, and any honest accounting clearly shows that the right-wing wins in the violent political rhetoric category. Both sides should wake up and cut it out in an ideal world, but we all know that will not happen. Trump was pumping his fist in the air and saying, "Fight, fight, fight!" immediately after it happened. I have no doubt Trump will use this incident as a rallying cry and call it a left-wing effort to silence him. It will appeal to his supporters' emotions, grievances, and victimhoods, and they will never see how the incendiary rhetoric of Trump and the MAGA movement helped to lead us to this moment.
And who can blame him.  I was about 99% confident that Trump was going to be reelected before yesterday.  The criminal prosecutions backfired.  Grocery and gas prices are still high.  Biden demonstrated on national TV that he is too old, frail, and mentally incapable of running the country.  Everyone knows Biden needs to be replaced, but his ego and inertia are in the way.  The Ds have no courage and obviously do not believe their own over-heated rhetoric.  The polling gap is widening.  The results of this election were a forgone conclusion before yesterday.  


And now....  I am still not going to vote for him but a lot of people are and I do not blame them.  Money can not buy a photo like the one below.  The visual contrast with Biden is beyond description.

July 14, 2024 02:35 PM Forum: Politics

What rhetoric caused the violence that caused an Assassination attempt on Trump? Probably those who call him Hitler and say he's a threat to Democracy

Posted By James Brown
Originally Posted by Richard Davis



I'll try to even speak calm and rationally to you.

Jake Tapper:   "Trump is using the same words as Adolf Hitler did in the 1930s"

President Joe Biden:   "MAGA Republicans are the biggest threat to Democracy in this nation"

President Joe Biden:   "Donald Trump will put his enemies in Jail"

Demented Rachel Maddown:  "Donald Trump is going to put me in a Concentration camp" 

And every OTHER leftist Democrat News anchor and pundit on MSNBC, CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC, PBS......:

"We have to stop Donald Trump or he will end the United States, and destroy Democracy as we know it"

"Donald Trump is the biggest threat to Democracy that the United States has ever known".

Gee, and we scratch our heads wondering why some LUNATIC got on a roof and tried to take out Donald Trump?

Yeah, and we're supposed to drop our jaws on the floor and be stunned that this happened yesterday?  

Anyone who did Kill Donald Trump would be a hero to virtually every leftist News anchor out there.

They would of course would NEVER say it out loud but they would be THRILLED!

Russ Carroll would never say it out loud.
As you know, all of those quotes are vile and wrong in my opinion.  I would love to see them stop.  

You are misreading Russ Carroll and I have no idea why.  He would grieve if Trump were hurt or killed and has said directly to the forum that it would be horrible for the country if the shooter had succeeded.

Look, we have two things to go by - Russ's actual words and Russ's decades long history of postings on this forum.  In view of those two data sets I am 100% confident that Russ was not blaming the right for the assassination attempt and Russ would not rejoice privately if Trump were killed.  I would not say the same about Rachel Maddow or Jake Trapper for example.  

I am glad that you have calmed down.  You need to think about your interpretation of Russ's postings in the context of everything you know about him.

July 15, 2024 12:01 AM Forum: Politics

What rhetoric caused the violence that caused an Assassination attempt on Trump? Probably those who call him Hitler and say he's a threat to Democracy

Posted By James Brown
Originally Posted by Russ Carroll


I already said I did not say or imply that regardless if you took it that way or not, and I explained it in great detail.
Richard and Greg are simply looking or someone to play the "He blamed the Right card!" against.  You obviously did not blame the right.  Anyone who can read with comprehension can see that.   The fact that they grossly misinterpreted your post and refuse to accept your detailed explanations has little bearing on their emotions and feelings.  Your post was "close enough" if you squint and pretend to find meaning that was not there, so they ran with it.  So it goes.

July 15, 2024 04:34 AM Forum: Politics

What rhetoric caused the violence that caused an Assassination attempt on Trump? Probably those who call him Hitler and say he's a threat to Democracy

Posted By James Brown
Originally Posted by Greg Shaffer


You are soooooooo full of shit lol

You go from saying you agree to the tripe above.....make up your damn mind.
Two things are true at the same time:

1.  You guys misinterpreted Russ.
2.  I understand why you and Rich were upset, in view of your misinterpretation.  

In other words, if Russ had blamed the right's violent rhetoric for motivating this shooter, I too would be pissed, since I agree that the left's "Hitler/existential threat to democracy" rhetoric is more likely to blame for this shooter's motivation than any right wing rhetoric. 

So, in view of your (I believe honest) misinterpretation, I can understand why you were upset.  In view of your misinterpretation, I think anger is justified.  Even so, I do not think you accurately read or interpreted Russ's posts.   Maybe I am not making myself clear, but I don't think I can be any more clear in an internet forum. 

I am agreeing that you have a good and defensible point on the big issue, but directing your anger at Russ is based upon a gross error on your part.

July 15, 2024 05:00 AM Forum: Politics

What rhetoric caused the violence that caused an Assassination attempt on Trump? Probably those who call him Hitler and say he's a threat to Democracy

Posted By James Brown
Originally Posted by Greg Shaffer


You are soooooooo full of shit lol

You go from saying you agree to the tripe above.....make up your damn mind.
Even though I am 100% sure you misinterpreted Russ's posts, William Barr clearly describes the “big issue” we agree on:  

 https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2024/07/14/former_ag_bill_barr_when_someone_is_demonized_to_the_extent_trump_has_been_they_become_a_target.html

July 15, 2024 02:47 PM Forum: Politics

What rhetoric caused the violence that caused an Assassination attempt on Trump? Probably those who call him Hitler and say he's a threat to Democracy

Posted By James Brown
@Rod - yes we are speculating.  This is of course what we and everyone else in the country does after any sort of shooting.

July 15, 2024 02:51 PM Forum: Politics

Judge Eileen Cannon rightfully dismissed the Corrupt Classified Documents case against Donald Trump, citing the Illegal appt. of Jack Smith as special Prosecutor

Posted By James Brown
Originally Posted by Richard Davis
And it is funny that former federal prosecutor Andrew C. McCarthy was just on Hugh Hewitt's radio show today speaking about the case and he stated the exact same thing, how this appt. of Jack Smith was a violation of the US Constitution's appt. clause and that Merrick Garland and Joe Biden were both involved in the Corruption.  

As he said, the DOJ under Garland once again overstepped its bounds, when Garland let Jack Smith go forth with this corrupt, biased and one sided case.

McCarthy pointed out just how unbelievably blatant the one-sidedness was, in that Smith ridiculously and outrageously charged 32 different counts against Donald Trump, yet gave Biden who did the exact same thing Trump did and even worse, no criminal charges at all, not even 1 single count of the espionage act against Biden.

It appears that perhaps the legal system in this country might come back to some semblance of honesty and ethics, beginning with this dismissal of the corrupt case against Trump.  

And of course the left here and everywhere will go insane.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/spencerbrown/2024/07/15/trump-classified-docs-case-dismissed-n2641938
No opinion yet.  I certainly have never looked at the appointment clause and any law surrounding the appointment clause.  I'll have to try to find an unbiased source on the relevant law.  Could be tough.

July 15, 2024 02:57 PM Forum: Politics

Judge Eileen Cannon rightfully dismissed the Corrupt Classified Documents case against Donald Trump, citing the Illegal appt. of Jack Smith as special Prosecutor

Posted By James Brown
Originally Posted by Richard Davis

Oh Andy McCarthy is biased is he?
Maybe, although I did not read the link yet.  You guys are going into overdrive trying to read hidden meaning into innocuous posts.  By "unbiased" I meant something dry and scholarly, like the legal research sites I often post to.  As opposed to something posted for popular consumption in a clearly biased source on the left or right.

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