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October 29, 2024 04:36 PM Forum: Politics

Professor Allan Lichtman Stands By His Prediction: Immediately Faces Violent Threats From MAGA

Posted By James Brown

Originally Posted by Brian McFarland

I did. I ignore news sources from both the extreme right and the extreme left.  Until I saw your post, I had no idea Hillary was still out there doing whatever she does!
Surely you have seen the recent "Trump is a fascist and threat to democracy" arguments in the news sources you favor?  Harris went there in her CNN town hall with Anderson Cooper.

October 29, 2024 04:56 PM Forum: Politics

Professor Allan Lichtman Stands By His Prediction: Immediately Faces Violent Threats From MAGA

Posted By James Brown

Originally Posted by Brian McFarland

Of course I saw that stuff - kinda hard to miss. I'm not convinced it's stupid enough to lose an election. Seriously, nobody spouts dumber things than the Trump campaign.

Anyone seen my cat?
We have reached a point of agreement!   By the way, if it is not paywalled, I endorse this article in the Washington Post.  It let me read the whole thing, but paywalls seem kind of random some times: 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/10/29/trump-demagogue-fascist-definitions/

"The latest example of this linguistic disorder is the designation of the ex-president as a “fascist” by John F. Kelly, former Marine general and former chief of staff to Trump, as well as by Vice President Kamala Harris a day later.... A far better designation, one that sums up Trump with precision, is “demagogue.” ....  Fascist, on the other hand, when applied to Trump, is sloppy at best and reckless at worst — almost certainly fueling the flames of his MAGA base and alienating swing voters."

Even though I agree Trump is a demagogue, I do not think this is a good closing argument for Harris either.  People know Trump and either love him or hate him.  Fearmongering about Trump is pointless.  Harris needs to reach the union guys, young men, and minorities who have moved into Trump's camp.  I think she is failing to do this, and in my opinion, it is going to cost her the election.

October 29, 2024 07:13 PM Forum: Politics

Reductio ad Hitlerum

Posted By James Brown

Originally Posted by David Cotterell
I should add as a citizen of the country that is by far the largest trading partner of the USA, if Trump wins and actually installs those tariffs it won't just be the American middle class he will be bludgeoning....

Dave
Good points in both posts, Dave.  Trump’s rhetoric is divisive and Nazi-like.   I personally do not think he has the ability to implement his worst impulses literally, even if he is sincere.   Like  a classic demagogue, he says what he says for the effect it has on some listeners, not because he actually has core beliefs.

I also am skeptical of his ability to institute sweeping tariffs - Trump’s team, if elected, will not want to tank the economy.   Wall Street has baked in a possible (maybe likely?) Trump victory and the markets do not seem too concerned about economy killing tariffs.   My opinion is thin soup for you, I know, but FWIW I personally have a lot of faith in the American system curbing Trump, if he wins.

All that said, my main point is not that Trump is or is not a fascist.   My point is that this is a crummy and losing message for Harris to close on.   It might be well received by Harris supporters, but she has those votes banked.   As a matter of politics she needs to reach the occasional voting blue- collar men and minority voters Trump has reached out to with some success and calling Trump a fascist is not going to get it done.

October 29, 2024 08:24 PM Forum: Politics

Professor Allan Lichtman Stands By His Prediction: Immediately Faces Violent Threats From MAGA

Posted By James Brown

Originally Posted by James Lacey




Polls are not just raw data. Pollsters change the weight of the data based on educated guesses. They know the poll is not a representative sample, so they massage the data based on educated guesses about why it's not representative. These educated guesses can be wildly wrong. For example, the poll's respondents will have a particular demographic distribution (age, sex, race, education, etc.). Still, the pollster knows the poll's distribution does not match the electorate's distribution, so they weigh the data by using other data to make the poll represent what they think the electorate looks like.

So, the poll may have 1,000 respondents, 600 of whom are women and 400 of whom are men, but they know from 2020 data that women only represented 55% of the vote, so they will weight the poll data to reflect that. In other words, it reduces the influence of women voters in the poll. However, they underestimate female voting participation in 2024 if they are wrong about female turnout. This is the simplest example I could come up with, but they also adjust based on party affiliation, likelihood to vote, region, etc. I guess the point I'm trying to make is that given all the assumptions that go into polling, it's impressive they are as accurate as they are sometimes. On the other hand, I largely ignore national polls. They are pretty worthless in a contest like this. In a contest like this,  the policy wonks and people with real election experience who can interpret and predict what's happening in the campaigns and the electorate are often more valuable than the pollsters.

Even Nate Silver says Kamala will probably win if she keeps the Blue Wall (MI, PA, and WI). Harris is not doing badly in those states, especially given Trump's recent foo-bar at his NY MAGA rally. Other policy wonks and experts I read and keep up with say that all the polls tell us is that the race is too close to call using polls. There are many other factors to consider, such as lots of women voting, lots of young people voting, lots of first-time voters voting, etc. We all know most of those votes will be blue votes.

Meanwhile, Trump is hemorrhaging his core base of Republican males. So, he needs new voters, but where will they come from? Nowhere, from what I can see. Other factors are that Trump's campaign is undisciplined and out of gas, and Trump is more incoherent and belligerent than ever. Of course, his base eats it up, but he can't win with his base. All he's doing is alienating more voters and driving them away. There are lots of other reasons why things on the ground are looking good for Kamala, too many to go into completely, but one that I've been getting some enjoyment from is all the lawsuits the MAGA minions have been losing when trying to suppress the vote under the guise of "election integrity." Polls are essential, but they don't tell the whole story.
I agree that this race is too close to call with polls, but polls are the best tool we have.  In 2016 and 2020 the polls underestimated Trump's support.  This means Trump wins in 2024, unless the pollsters have overcorrected on some combination of the factors James mentions.

Nate Silver warns us not to trust our "gut instincts."  But in the same article, he discloses that his gut says Trump.  Bottom line, this is a 50/50 race and the winner of PA has a real leg up on winning the EC.

October 29, 2024 08:32 PM Forum: Politics

Professor Allan Lichtman Stands By His Prediction: Immediately Faces Violent Threats From MAGA

Posted By James Brown

Originally Posted by James Lacey




Polls are not just raw data. Pollsters change the weight of the data based on educated guesses. They know the poll is not a representative sample, so they massage the data based on educated guesses about why it's not representative. These educated guesses can be wildly wrong. For example, the poll's respondents will have a particular demographic distribution (age, sex, race, education, etc.). Still, the pollster knows the poll's distribution does not match the electorate's distribution, so they weigh the data by using other data to make the poll represent what they think the electorate looks like.

So, the poll may have 1,000 respondents, 600 of whom are women and 400 of whom are men, but they know from 2020 data that women only represented 55% of the vote, so they will weight the poll data to reflect that. In other words, it reduces the influence of women voters in the poll. However, they underestimate female voting participation in 2024 if they are wrong about female turnout. This is the simplest example I could come up with, but they also adjust based on party affiliation, likelihood to vote, region, etc. I guess the point I'm trying to make is that given all the assumptions that go into polling, it's impressive they are as accurate as they are sometimes. On the other hand, I largely ignore national polls. They are pretty worthless in a contest like this. In a contest like this,  the policy wonks and people with real election experience who can interpret and predict what's happening in the campaigns and the electorate are often more valuable than the pollsters.

Even Nate Silver says Kamala will probably win if she keeps the Blue Wall (MI, PA, and WI). Harris is not doing badly in those states, especially given Trump's recent foo-bar at his NY MAGA rally. Other policy wonks and experts I read and keep up with say that all the polls tell us is that the race is too close to call using polls. There are many other factors to consider, such as lots of women voting, lots of young people voting, lots of first-time voters voting, etc. We all know most of those votes will be blue votes.

Meanwhile, Trump is hemorrhaging his core base of Republican males. So, he needs new voters, but where will they come from? Nowhere, from what I can see. Other factors are that Trump's campaign is undisciplined and out of gas, and Trump is more incoherent and belligerent than ever. Of course, his base eats it up, but he can't win with his base. All he's doing is alienating more voters and driving them away. There are lots of other reasons why things on the ground are looking good for Kamala, too many to go into completely, but one that I've been getting some enjoyment from is all the lawsuits the MAGA minions have been losing when trying to suppress the vote under the guise of "election integrity." Polls are essential, but they don't tell the whole story.
How about new voters in Bucks County PA?  Bucks county, the burbs north of Philly, is the mother of all bellweathers this cycle, you will be hearing a lot about it on November 5.   For the first time since 2007 R registrations surpass D registrations.

https://penncapital-star.com/campaigns-elections/bucks-county-republicans-surpass-democrats-in-voter-registration-numbers/

October 29, 2024 08:39 PM Forum: Politics

Professor Allan Lichtman Stands By His Prediction: Immediately Faces Violent Threats From MAGA

Posted By James Brown

Originally Posted by James Lacey




Polls are not just raw data. Pollsters change the weight of the data based on educated guesses. They know the poll is not a representative sample, so they massage the data based on educated guesses about why it's not representative. These educated guesses can be wildly wrong. For example, the poll's respondents will have a particular demographic distribution (age, sex, race, education, etc.). Still, the pollster knows the poll's distribution does not match the electorate's distribution, so they weigh the data by using other data to make the poll represent what they think the electorate looks like.

So, the poll may have 1,000 respondents, 600 of whom are women and 400 of whom are men, but they know from 2020 data that women only represented 55% of the vote, so they will weight the poll data to reflect that. In other words, it reduces the influence of women voters in the poll. However, they underestimate female voting participation in 2024 if they are wrong about female turnout. This is the simplest example I could come up with, but they also adjust based on party affiliation, likelihood to vote, region, etc. I guess the point I'm trying to make is that given all the assumptions that go into polling, it's impressive they are as accurate as they are sometimes. On the other hand, I largely ignore national polls. They are pretty worthless in a contest like this. In a contest like this,  the policy wonks and people with real election experience who can interpret and predict what's happening in the campaigns and the electorate are often more valuable than the pollsters.

Even Nate Silver says Kamala will probably win if she keeps the Blue Wall (MI, PA, and WI). Harris is not doing badly in those states, especially given Trump's recent foo-bar at his NY MAGA rally. Other policy wonks and experts I read and keep up with say that all the polls tell us is that the race is too close to call using polls. There are many other factors to consider, such as lots of women voting, lots of young people voting, lots of first-time voters voting, etc. We all know most of those votes will be blue votes.

Meanwhile, Trump is hemorrhaging his core base of Republican males. So, he needs new voters, but where will they come from? Nowhere, from what I can see. Other factors are that Trump's campaign is undisciplined and out of gas, and Trump is more incoherent and belligerent than ever. Of course, his base eats it up, but he can't win with his base. All he's doing is alienating more voters and driving them away. There are lots of other reasons why things on the ground are looking good for Kamala, too many to go into completely, but one that I've been getting some enjoyment from is all the lawsuits the MAGA minions have been losing when trying to suppress the vote under the guise of "election integrity." Polls are essential, but they don't tell the whole story.
I get it that I am fully and obnoxiously beating the polling drum, but Rs have been making inroads with Latino voters for years.  Here is one example, there are many more from many pollsters.  https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/poll-harris-trump-democrats-advantage-latino-voters-continues-shrink-rcna172686

It seems to me that you guys are going with your gut instincts and I am relying on the polls.  We'll see who was right in a week, or maybe a few weeks.  sad

October 29, 2024 08:44 PM Forum: Politics

October 29, 2024 08:47 PM Forum: Politics

Markets Tank Over Fear Of A Second Trump Presidency

Posted By James Brown

Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman

Er, ah, the point is long term trends, specifically under Trump, like this one:


"From Barron's Financial on the recent drop in the Dow and upcoming headwinds:"

"Also, Donald Trump’s chances of winning the presidential election have risen in the past few months, according to RealClearPolitics. His policies include fiscal spending and tariffs, both of which create inflation and throw cold water on the idea that the Fed will cut rates many times. While the economy could continue to grow, tariffs, for their part, not only lift prices, they destroy demand."
Ok, then don't flesh out your post with three days worth of data.  Over the long term, the markets did fine in Trump's last presidency.

October 29, 2024 10:47 PM Forum: Politics

Reductio ad Hitlerum

Posted By James Brown

Originally Posted by Russ Carroll

You can dismiss partisans or even the media when they use this comparison or term. How can you dismiss nearly all of Trumps own national security leadership (Kelly, Milley, Esper, Bolton, McMaster etc.)
Not sure if this is a rhetorical question, or if you are asking me?  FWIW I don't dismiss them, although I agree with the link I posted that Trump is better described as a demagogue, not a fascist.

My point all along has been that campaigning on  Trump's negatives is an ineffective and possibly detrimental closing argument for Harris.  No one here seems willing to argue against my conclusion on this point.  Do you think this is an effective closing argument for Harris?  I would prefer that Harris win, and I think the Electoral College is slipping away from her through a combination of many factors including but certainly not limited to a bad campaign closing strategy.

October 30, 2024 12:19 AM Forum: Politics

Early Voting

Posted By James Brown

As of yesterday, early voting is down a bit from the Covid inspired levels of 2020.  Still, these graphs assembled by CNN are interesting.  For every swing state for which CNN has data, the 2024 early voting is:

More Republican,
more older aged, and
more white,

than it was on the same day in 2020.  CNN will update this every day.  Probably stupid to draw conclusions, but I gotta think the Trump team likes these differences between 2020 and 2024.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/23/politics/early-voting-trends-2024-2020-visuals-dg/index.html