Originally Posted by Jim Moscheck
Well, it's either we're done with the guy for good, or four more years of chaos.
Personally, I am sick of what politics has become because of Trump. Go back and listen to what republicans, including Vance, said about him during the 2016 primaries. It wasn't pretty.
Now they've all capitulated.
Now, both sides could do with a little less outrage, bald faced lying, and screaming.
Preliminary comment - I am going out on a limb here and writing down some fairly dark thoughts. To the extent any of this sounds like I am agreeing with Richard's rants above, this is unintentional.
First, we are not done with Trump for good, even if he loses. Of course there will be months of allegations that the election was stolen, all of which will come to nothing other than a few moron lawyers, who signed on to specious litigation, being sanctioned. Trump will dominate the news though.
Then, we still have to deal with the NY sentencing. I think that Trump wins the appeal in NY easily, laughably easily. The way that case was prosecuted and the fact that the jury did not have to determine the existence of a specific secondary crime to any legal standard is beyond the pale. So, Trump will dominate the political headlines for months or years based upon the faulty NY prosecution and his
inevitable vindication on appeal. Along the way he will cultivate a new batch of resentful MAGA faithful. I think Vance's chances in 2028 are 1000x better if Trump loses tonight than if he wins. The Democratic party will regret the lawfare strategy in the next four years, even if they win the presidency today.
Then we still have to deal with Jack Smith's J6 prosecution. I have seen enough evidence to think this one is a close call, but let's assume that Smith wins. Is it really good for the country to incarcerate or otherwise punish a figure, based upon a highly political matter, when that person is totally beloved by 1/3 of the population? If Smith wins and actually moves to sentencing, I guarantee a Vance victory in 2028 with the pardoning of Trump being the only issue that matters. It would be far better for the Democrats if Harris drops this prosecution, and basically ignores Trump going forward.
Also, if he is not dead, Trump will run in 2028, assuming he loses today. His supporters would support his barely animated corpse, so he would probably get the nomination over Haley again. Would Vance or Rubio run against him? He would lose to Harris again of course, but the chaos is far from over, Jim M., very far indeed. Dark Jim the RINO.