Posts Made By: Rod Kaufman

Originally Posted by Richard Davis

Yes, fight like hell.  He fights like hell every day, in the political realm.

Here's the entire portion that you conveniently truncated.  For context, this is the entire portion of that statement he was talking about fighting like hell to correct a broken and corruption filled election process:

"Our brightest days are before us, our greatest achievements still wait. I think one of our great achievements will be election security because nobody until I came along, had any idea how corrupt our elections were. And again, most people would stand there at 9:00 in the evening and say, “I want to thank you very much,” and they go off to some other life, but I said, “Something’s wrong here. Something’s really wrong. Can’t have happened.” And we fight. We fight like Hell and if you don’t fight like Hell, you’re not going to have a country anymore"

So that is the context.  Something is wrong with the election security, it was corrupted, and so we need to fight like hell to correct it.

Your spin is just that, bullshit coming from you, the resident forum psycho.  

You have absolutely nothing.  I'll take the statements of Constitutional experts on the Law, Alan Dershowitz, Jonathan Turley, Mark Levin, John Eastman over lunatics on the left like yourself, who just spew out bullshit continuously and have no idea what you're talking about.  

Trump said this to the crowd:  
“I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard today.  We will see whether Republicans stand strong for the integrity of our elections, but whether or not they stand strong for our country, our country, our country has been under siege for a long time, far longer than this four year period.”


"So we’re going to, we’re going to walk down Pennsylvania Avenue, I love Pennsylvania Avenue, and we’re going to the Capitol and we’re going to try and give… The Democrats are hopeless. They’re never voting for anything, not even one vote. But we’re going to try and give our Republicans, the weak ones, because the strong ones don’t need any of our help, we’re going to try and give them the kind of pride and boldness that they need to take back our country. So let’s walk down Pennsylvania Avenue. I want to thank you all. God bless you and God bless America. Thank you all for being here, this is incredible. Thank you very much. Thank you".

And walking distance to the Capitol, from where the crowd was located is 45 minutes

Everything you spun there is the regular full of shit crapola coming from your psychotic peabrain.  

The mob marched down to the capitol. Trump and his family stated they would join them but they bugged out immediately after their incitement. Actions speak louder than words and Trump was back in the WH relishing the assault on the capitol that he had incited...

Here's the glock toting congresswoman from Colorado, check out her video:
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/532567-boebert-appears-to-carry-glock-on-way-to-capitol-building-in-new-ad
I seem to remember her name, oh she's a QANON supporter, that's why: https://www.axios.com/lauren-boebert-house-election-colorado-qanon-9fde24b3-805b-4137-a557-2f0d55724b0f.html
"Of course, before she even began screaming from the lectern on the floor – and she was screaming rather than engaging in any form of debate – she had made sure to post “Today is 1776” on her Twitter feed."
https://coloradosun.com/2021/01/10/donald-trump-capitol-congress-boebert-opinion/
PS: I almost threw up when I saw her video...

"The president could face charges for inciting the Capitol riot—and maybe even for inciting the murder of a Capitol Police Officer."
"The federal criminal code (18 USC 373) makes it a crime to solicit, command, induce or “endeavor to persuade” another person to commit a felony that includes the threat or use of physical force. Simply put, it is a crime to persuade another person, or a mob of several thousand, to commit a violent felony.
"From the early results of the investigation, we know that several insurrectionists already have been charged with felonies. However, the crime posing the biggest problem for the president could be having solicited the mob into a seditious conspiracy. The federal criminal code makes it a crime for “two or more persons … to oppose by force the authority [of the United States] or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States” (18 USC 2384). That felony, including the use of force, clearly was committed by the mob after being encouraged by the president."
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/01/11/trumps-new-criminal-problem-457298

Originally Posted by Russ Carroll

Well, at least we know where the line is for the GOP faithful to call out trump: Armed insurrection against the US Government.

Well, that's some of the GOP faithful. I don't know that includes the cons on the forum.

"Trump assumed no responsibility for what happened last Wednesday, despite telling his supporters in the hour beforehand to "fight like hell." And he did not specifically decry attempts to find and kill political leaders, including his own vice president."
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/12/politics/donald-trump-riot-impeachment/index.html

Originally Posted by Greg Shaffer

Gonna keep spouting that debunked crap I guess? LOL

The capitol was assaulted by a fired-up mob of Trumptoids. That's reality; that's what happened. Trump and the GOP who supported his insane lies and rants are now having to answer for what they did in the form of sanctions from private companies who will withhold or demand to have their political contributions returned, at least one GOP rep who took part in the riot resigned after being arrested for it,  another lost a committee assignment at Harvard, others like Halley and Cruz are facing censorship and your president will be impeached, again. 
Have a nice day...

Originally Posted by Richard Davis

Barack Obama didn't specifically decry people actually killing police officers before they did in Dallas, Texas, when 5 police officers died and 7 more police officers were sent to the hospital because they were attacked by BLM murderers.

Barack Obama told the world that police officers were racists.

Psychos on the left went and killed based upon his words.

Barack Obama did not specifically decry attempts to find and kill police officers by Black Lives Matter.

Barack Obama is therefore responsible for the murders of 5 police officers at a very minimum.

False, stop spewing lies: https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2016/dec/27/larry-pratt/pants-fire-larry-pratt-says-obama-hasnt-decried-ki/

Originally Posted by Greg Shaffer

Those who committed acts of violence are being arrested and charged (52 at last count I saw) as they should have been.....However that lie you were professing about Trump having directed or incited them to do it is just that, a lie.

As for impeachment, I doubt that will happen and if it does it certainly wont be successful.....there is no legitimate basis for it.  

If only the left had been so adamant about arresting and prosecuting those responsible for the violence from the left last year the whole country would not be nearly so divided. Instead the party line was "its mostly peaceful protesting" meanwhile dozens were killed and millions and millions of dollars in property damage incurred....Sorry but the faux outrage now pales in comparison. 

Greg, being that your from the backwoods of Georgia and all, I'd like your take on why two incoming GOP congressional reps have a hard-on for Hitler. First, the young tyke that chose as his vacation spot, among all those in the world, to be the Eagle's Nest in Austria. Once there, he referred to Hitler as "Der Fuhrer". Next we have a GOP gal who said Hitler was right on one thing: indoctrinating the youth and she claims support from the "conservative moms of America." Both reps, have, under bipartisan pressure, apologized.  

Originally Posted by Richard Davis

I spewed NO Lies, you really are THAT Stupid aren't you.

And don't truncate my posting Punk.

You posted this:   "And he did not specifically decry attempts to find and kill political leaders"

He did within 5 hours later talk about how despicable it was, and that they should be arrested for their actions.  

Obama didn't WARN against it BEFORE it happened.  

His WORDS INCITED that violence.  

Only after police officers were dead, did he specifically tell them that the cops were brave.

He never said before the killings "don't attack cops"

He denigrated police depts around the nation  as being systemically racist.  

"Obama didn't WARN against it BEFORE it happened."
"His WORDS INCITED that violence."  
The above, other than being a typical Davis ploy to deflect away from the topic, is totally contradictory and crazy. How is Obama supposed to warn against something he didn't know was going to happen and since he didn't how did his words about something that hadn't yet happened and that he hadn't spoken incited violence?
Now, we can contrast that to a pro-Trump mob, listening to Trump telling them to fight like hell, and then going onto the hunt to do it. 

Originally Posted by Richard Davis

How is Trump supposed to warn against something he didn't know was going to happen.

That would be funny if it wasn't so tragic. After saying what he did and after looking out at that mob, he and his family got in their cars and went in the opposite direction after saying they would be there at the march. They damn well knew...