Posts Made By: Rod Kaufman

Originally Posted by Greg Shaffer

What you fail to take into account is 90% of the propaganda being spread about it are either misrepresentations or straight up lies.....but that doesnt surprise me when it comes to you.....you eat the BS they serve up to you like its dessert.

Lol! You're the one that buys into and believes in the "big lie" of widespread voter fraud and you spew out some figure like 90% of what you believe to be propaganda about the new voter laws as if I and others who believe the same are having the wool pulled over our eyes. Let's look at the facts in Georgia:
1. "Much of the work administering elections in Georgia is handled by the state's 159 counties. The law gives the State Election Board new powers to intervene in county election offices and to remove and replace local election officials. That has led to concerns that the Republican-controlled state board could exert more influence over the administration of elections, including the certification of county results." So, if the Republicans controlling the counties see by way of exit polling that things aren't going their way, in they go to "remove and replace local election officials." That can lead to obvious delays in voting and in tabulating votes and can give the appearance of impropriety on the part of the local officials, when, in fact, there is none.
2. "The new law makes it a misdemeanor to hand out "any money or gifts, including, but not limited to, food and drink" to anyone standing in line to vote. The prohibition extends 150 feet from a polling place and 25 feet from any person standing in line." Or, as Governor Kemp has stated, "let them eat Uber!" So, if I wanted to give you or somebody else a bottle of water, I could be cited or arrested or both.
3. Republicans, faced with an onslaught of criticism, reversed themselves and allowed for weekend voting which already had been taking place and then essentially proclaimed themselves to be saviors for doing so.
4. "The new law shortens the time for runoffs from nine weeks to four, with (Republican) lawmakers saying the current span is "exhausting" and needs to be shortened to a "more manageable period." "The shorter period means less time for early and mail voting. Early voting had lasted three weeks before runoffs. Now early voting would begin "as soon as possible" but no later than the second Monday before the election, possibly leaving as little as five weekdays and no weekend days of early voting. Voters would also have less time to apply for a mail ballot.
No new voters could be registered in the period before a runoff because the registration deadline would be the day before the earlier election."
https://abc7news.com/new-georgia-voting-law-explained-governor-brian-kemp-sunday-water-voters/10483657/
Additionally, "The new law does significantly reduce the number of drop boxes from the 2020 level.
For example, Fulton County says it will go down from 38 to eight drop boxes.
The new law also means the boxes will be held in buildings and can only be accessed in the hours that early voting is allowed, rather than 24 hours a day as was the case in 2020." In other words, why encourage voting with convenient drop off boxes when you can limit it?
"There are dozens of other provisions, but the tightening of some restrictions around postal ballots has attracted attention.
The new law says postal ballots can be sent out to voters who request them 29 days before election day, as opposed to 49 days previously.
And new voter ID requirements mean signature matching will no longer be used to confirm identities on postal ballots - a method railed against by Donald Trump.
Instead voters will have to provide one form of identification, such as a driver's licence or social security number.
Proponents of the bill say this method will make postal voting more secure, but critics argue the new measures are likely to disproportionately affect black Americans, who are less likely than white Americans to have voter identification."
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56650565

Now, the above is specific to Georgia but other GOP directives in other states are as bad or much worse...

Originally Posted by Greg Shaffer

Congrats you learned to copy and paste some of the exact propaganda I mentioned.....instead of buying into that BS why not actually read the new laws, you might learn something.....but then that wouldnt fit the narrative you support lol.....

I copied and pasted the relevant portions of the fact checks from ABC and the BBC and that's what you are calling "propaganda"
Whom to believe?...

Originally Posted by Greg Shaffer

Yep....because if you read the actual laws and compare it to what they are reporting you quickly realize what is being reported is agenda driven....I am sure you wont though

So, you don't think the fact checkers read the actual laws they were fact checking? Or, if they did, it's somehow "agenda driven"? BBC was one of the fact checkers. Do you think they have an agenda in Georgia?

Originally Posted by Greg Shaffer

Ugghh....yet another circle jerk with you....nope. 

As usual, you confront a Trump lover with the facts and they either cut and run or otherwise don't want to deal with it. Or, you have a situation like you do in Arizona wherein the local Republican party is conducting its own audit of the election results specific to Maricopa county where Democratic voters and Biden prevailed. To do so, they hired a QAnon proponent who formed his own company that nobody has heard of before called the "Cyber Ninjas". They're busy using"ultraviolet" lights on the ballots for reasons evidently known only to them and they're busy "examining" the voting machines. One can only speculate on what their "examination" consists of. They also have their own force of uniformed and badged officers that aren't the real police. Reporters had to get a court order allowing them to view the process since Cyber Ninjas  reportedly don't care for transparency...

Originally Posted by Greg Shaffer

Facts?? lol.....

It's called a fact check. In this case, I included two. But, as usual, you prove refractory to either...

Originally Posted by Greg Shaffer

LOL.....one is an opinion piece published on an ABC site and the BBC one simply calls itself a fact check.....

As I said.....lots of inaccurate propaganda that is agenda driven out there.....READ the new regulations and laws and think for yourself, not that I would expect YOU to do that. You are happy just accepting what someone else claims are the facts because it supports your confirmation bias......

Lol, The ABC news site presents an analysis from AP and the BBC is what it calls itself. Talk about one's own agenda in thinking otherwise...

Here's what the Republicans have dished up and now awaiting DeSantis' signature: 
"Perhaps the biggest changes in the bill involve limits and restrictions on ballot drop boxes, used by around 1.5 million Florida voters in the 2020 election.
The legislation cuts access to drop boxes by limiting their use to early voting hours unless they are located at election supervisors' offices. All drop boxes must always be staffed in person by election supervisors' office workers if they are in use."
And, just to change a party affiliation, a voter in Florida would have to: "provide their Florida driver's licenses, state identification numbers or the last four digits of their Social Security numbers". 
Geez, how bad can it get?...
https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/29/politics/florida-passes-elections-bill-voting-restrictions/index.html

“The 2020 presidential election was not stolen,” Cheney tweeted. “Anyone who claims it was is spreading THE BIG LIE, turning their back on the rule of law, and poisoning our democratic system.”
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/551459-cheney-slams-trump-on-big-lie-over-election
And The Big Lie is what is being used as a basis for Republicans to enact voter restriction laws in GOP controlled states...

Originally Posted by James Brown

Hi Rod:

I have not read the TX law - I am curious what James thinks. 

Still, Rod, one must have been born yesterday to not acknowledge that Microsoft and American are simply bowing to social pressure.   The merits of these laws have absolutely nothing to do with the business calculus.  (Specifically whether the laws are objectively reasonable or if they do in fact restrict minority voting.)

The businesses will predict the impact of one political position on their bottom line and proceed accordingly.  In this instance the regular media and social media pressure against these laws in enormous.  Is it justified?  I don't know and to the business it does not matter.  The business's bottom line matters.  It's the American way.  It's what I want the businesses in my portfolio to do.  

Jim

I'm curious what James thinks, too.
You're correct in stating, "The merits of these laws have absolutely nothing to do with the business calculus." The companies opposing them are merely being social responsible in doing so...

Originally Posted by James Lacey

It's just political posturing, in my humble opinion. The Texas Republicans pull this kind of grand-standing every time an election is near, or they need to raise money. In short, it's red meat for their constituents, but most of us doubt it will ever make it out of the legislature. They are also pushing a permitless carry law right now too. In short, almost any adult would be able to conceal carry without any permit, training, or license. Only the true gun-nuts think this would be a good idea, and most law enforcement doesn't support it. It's just more of the Republican outrage machine generating stuff for their constituents to be outraged about so they can monetize them.  You would think that one of these days, they would catch on to the scam, but it never happens.

Well, with all due respect, I think you're wrong. The Texas senate just passed the nutzoid gun bill and now it goes to the house where a similar bill passed last year. I believe the same will happen with regards to the election bill. The companies that oppose the latter undoubtedly had their legal teams review it while their execs believe there's enough Republican support to push it through. You'll likely be having a Republican poll watcher, armed with a gun and a camera, "documenting" your vote...