Maurice Clark said:
Hi all,
I am posting this piece of news here because time and time again I have seen certain persons posting on this forum about how the French are cowards, worthless, etc.
I wonder if those persons would be willing to publicly apologize on this forum! :S Somehow I do not think I will hold my breath!
Maurice
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7569942.stm
Maurice:
I'm sure that I am not target of your post, but I do want to add something here. In the US it is popular to joke about the French. Type "French Military Victories" in to your Google search box and hit the "I Feel Lucky" button for an example.
This kind of thing is good natured humor. It is true though, that underneath the jokes there is a bit of genuine partisan resentment that the French did not back us up when we invaded Iraq.
Resentment pointed at the French Government. Not the French soldiers or people. Ignore for a moment the issue of who was right or wrong with respect to Iraq and recognize only that a tradition of good natured joking plus some recent frustration and resentment exists.
That stage being set, I am confident that no rational person in the States actually thinks that French soldiers are cowards. It is terrible that those French soldiers were killed in Afghanistan. I am sure they were very brave men.
This observation is part of a broader theme I see played out every day at work and in the press if you look hard enough. International public sentiment might be low for the US right now, but the people I deal with seem to still like and admire Americans quite a bit. Some are even quite grateful for what we have done historically if not recently.
Let me toss out an anecdote here. A couple of weeks ago I was visiting Yellowstone Nat'l Park with my extended family. An older Korean gentleman came up to my father and accurately guessed he was a Korean war veteran. After they talked for a bit, the old Korean guy graciously and eloquently thanked my dad for all he did in the war, and all America did to keep the Chinese North of modern South Korea. He credits America with giving him the opportunity to live a full and productive life in an open society and world economy. (He had a long international career in oil and gas engineering.) He said that it bothered him a lot that young South Koreans don't appreciate what America and her allies did for Korea. It was pretty moving for my dad and I was glad my boys had a chance to experience it.
I'm not saying that Iraq was the same as Korea or that the Invasion of Iraq was a good idea. What I am saying is that those who think that the American reputation is irretrievably tarnished need to get out and talk to some international citizens. What I see is that the Bush administration might have low international approval but the world's citizens still admire and respect Americans. I talk to lawyers in the UK, Netherlands and Canada all the time. I have Asian contacts, but we never talk politics... Maybe in Australia it's different? I don't know.
It is horrible that the French soldiers died. I am sure they were brave men and strong allies of my country. The world will grieve them. I am aware that it is risky to use news of their deaths to spring board to a broader topic, but the content of your post called these thoughts to my mind.
Jim