Posts Made By: Rod Kaufman

Originally Posted by Mel Maki

It does seem like more pipelines would lessen the impact of a threat against a pipeline.
More pipeline capacity is better than less pipeline capacity.

And less gas guzzling pickups, probably the kind of vehicle Greg drives, lessens demand, too. And more electric vehicles decreases the need for more gas and less pipelines. That's why states are heading towards electric vehicles only and so are the automakers...

Originally Posted by James Brown

Hi Rod:

Speaking of the media - did you catch the Federal Court decision where the judge dismissed a defamation suit against Rachel Maddow and MSNBC because no rational viewer could believe Rachel was presenting anything other than a complete partisan fabrication?  The judge even awarded attorney fees, I guess because it was so obvious to her that the Maddow show was pure hyperbole and BS.

I agree with the judge on this one.  No rational viewer could possibly believe anything presented on MSNBC.  Still, it is sad that MSNBC passes as a credible news source for some, including a few of my relatives.  So much for rational.

Can you picture the pre-trial strategy meetings for Maddow's lawyers?  "Charlie, how can we lose when we argue that MSNBC only presents opinion at best, but more often hyperbole bordering straight up BS!!"  To be fair, I think Fox may have pioneered this particular defense to media defamation suits.

Jim 

Looking into it, I find the suit cites a single situation referring to Maddow's reference to an article in the Daily Beast: : "The Court on May 22 found that “the alleged defamatory statement is Maddow’s opinion and exaggeration of the Daily Beast article, and that reasonable viewers would not take the statement as factual.”
https://news.bloomberglaw.com/us-law-week/oan-to-pay-msnbc-250-000-in-fees-after-losing-maddow-libel-suit
That's world's apart from your statement of, "No rational viewer could possibly believe anything presented on MSNBC." That's just silly...

Originally Posted by Greg Shaffer

And just how is that supposed to contradict what I said Rod? You are an idiot.....lol

A couple of months is different from whatever you mean by awhile and your statement following it that it may take years, if ever, to get to precovid prices, while potentially true, is less likely to be the case as wholesale costs for the commodity fall especially for different types of wood. You don't need to be a rocket scientist to figure that one out, Greg..,.

Originally Posted by James Brown

Maybe I exaggerated a little bit.  I did not say that Maddow was bought and paid for by the Kremlin though, did I?

It is weird that you have no problem recognizing the BS laid down by the personalities on Fox, but then you defend MSNBC and Maddow?  That is really weird.

Jim

I think you're being obtuse and evasive here, particularly with your statement that "I did not say that Maddow was bought and paid for by the Kremlin though, did I?" 
Obviously that's not what I stated or alluded to in my reply to you.
Again, there's a world of difference between Maddow giving her take on an article published elsewhere and therefore obviously outside the reporting of MSNBC than there is by the nightly primetime presentation of conspiracy theories and misinformation presented by Fox "News" propagandists. Even outside their recognized opionators, and that's being generous since their base audience takes them at their word, Fox misstates the news. A prime example from today: Biden held a press conference for the expressed purpose of announcing the bipartisan deal on infrastructure. And anyone following Hannity or others on Fox knows that Biden is criticized for not being bipartisan. So, how does Fox news report on their website Biden's press conference for a bipartisan deal? They report it as , Bipartisan deal but Biden wants more, dealbreaker!? Again, the reason Biden went on National TV was to inform the nation of the bipartisan deal and Fox reports it otherwise...

Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman

A couple of months is different from whatever you mean by awhile and your statement following it that it may take years, if ever, to get to precovid prices, while potentially true, is less likely to be the case as wholesale costs for the commodity fall especially for different types of wood. You don't need to be a rocket scientist to figure that one out, Greg..,.

And another follow up for Greg. This time from an article from a bank written on 4-14-21, before the current drop in wood prices:
"North American lumber prices are soaring, sending homebuilding costs higher with it. The good news is, relief may be just around the corner. BMO Capital Markets updated its Benchmark Western Spruce-Pine-Fir (SPF) lumber forecast for April. The bank sees lumber prices dropping in the second half of the year. By 2022, they expect lumber prices to be at more typical levels. This should help alleviate some of the rising input costs driving new home prices higher."
We're just about to enter the second half of this year and prices are beginning to fall, lending further credence to what the bank forecasts...
https://betterdwelling.com/bmo-sees-soaring-lumber-prices-crashing-soon-which-may-lower-new-home-costs/#_

Originally Posted by Greg Shaffer

What I actually said "that said we may see a further drop in the next few weeks."

How you equate that to me saying "a while" boggles the mind. The next few weeks seems fairly accurate compared to a "couple months" to the rational mind. It is you however and you are looking to justify your psychosis so I get it lol

In general prices regardless of what the commodity is dont fall to or below what they were previously....That is a by product of inflation as much as anything else. So yes I stand firm on them being unlikely to return to pre-covid levels on lumber and pretty much everything else, of course there are exceptions for sure depending on the product.

"How you equate that to me saying "a while" boggles the mind. The next few weeks seems fairly accurate compared to a "couple months" to the rational mind. It is you however and you are looking to justify your psychosis so I get it lol"
From your statement:
"It will take a while for that to be reflected at check out though".

As far as future trends on prices are concerned, I'm going with bank's forecast, not yours....

Originally Posted by James Brown

Like I said, it is weird that you can not see the perfect correspondence between Fox pandering to their "true believer" core audience and MSNBC pandering to their "true believer" core audience.  There is only one reason I can think of for anyone not appreciating that these outlets are the same with their exaggerations, bias, spin and outright lies.  That reason would be that one is in fact a "true believer" of one sort or the other.  Twin sons of different mothers.  

No doubt Fox is laying it on thick in 2021, since the Ds control the federal government.  But seriously Rod, were you in a coma from say 2016 to 2020?  Virtually nothing that MSNBC said about Trump or the Senate was free from spin, exaggeration, or outright lies.  If 1/2 of the crap MSNBC and their personalities spewed in 2016-2021 was even close to true, you and I would not be having this conversation, at least not in English.  Razve vy ne soglasny?

Jim

I think I'll let the courts and the state bars sort that out, Jim. Let me see, Rudy just had his license to practice law suspended because of his election lies that were accurately reported by MSNBC. I'm awaiting news regarding sanctions for the other big name lawyers who reportedly did the same. Dominion and smartmatic have their suits against the same as well as Fox propagandists coming up in the near future. I'm willing to wait on judgment regarding the veracity of the reporting on MSNBC as determined by the outcome of the sanctions and the lawsuits, are you?

Originally Posted by James Brown

I hope you don't think I'm defending Fox.  I'm obviously not.  With respect to MSNBC, just keep drinking the Kool-Aid, Rod.  No worries at all. J

Well, you're putting MSNBC in the same context and category as Fox and it clearly isn't.
From my perspective, from following both of them, and while one certainly has a liberal bias and the other a conservative one, it's obvious in my opinion that MSNBC delivers far more accurate reporting whereas Fox does theirs through their opinion commentators who comprise the bulk of their primetime "news" slots... 

Originally Posted by Greg Shaffer

So it is your contention that when I said "a few weeks" didnt clarify "a while" for you? Like I said, your psychosis drives you lol

Not when you stated a few weeks first and then stated a while later in your post...

Originally Posted by Greg Shaffer

My exact post.... "that said we may see a further drop in the next few weeks. Lumber futures have recently dropped significantly though and by over 40%......It will take a while for that to be reflected at check out though."

My use of "while" was referencing back to my prior sentence which said "a few weeks"..... Neither has anything to do with a later mention that we might never see pre-covid prices again....

Grasp at straws much to justify your obvious and apparently purposeful confusion?

Grasping at straws and splitting hairs again. At least you could reference your own post accurately by stating "a while" instead of "while" which have different contexts and meanings in your statements. Obviously, you're trying to rewrite the meaning of your post. Either way, I'm going with the forecast of a reputable bank on lumber prices particularly when it comes to any additional home improvements I might be contemplating.