Posts Made By: Rod Kaufman

Originally Posted by Greg Shaffer

LOL....it was a copy and paste from the original post you idiot.....seriously? Trying to make hay out of the fact I didnt say "a while" when referring to it? But I am grasping at straws and splitting hairs? Ok.....with that we are done here, this is like arguing with a 6 yr old.....

A little advice.... if you cannot handle critical and/or rational assessment of the divisive anecdotal bullshit you post without it triggering your depression and anxiety, don't post bullshit lol. I am the least of your concerns. The rest of social media is savage AF and you ain't built for this.

Originally Posted by James Brown

Hi Rod - yes, I'm putting them in the same category.  I have to admit that I have watched them far less than you.  Especially Fox.  I get my news from Facebook.



Just kidding!



I read the WSJ, and several articles from the NYT, WaPO, New Republic, Federalist,  Vox and so on as linked by RCP each week.  In the car I listen to local NPR in general, but sometimes I listen to Fox Headline News on Sirius.   FHN seems pretty unbiased on the radio, but it is absolutely just the headlines.  No personalities.  NPR is great until they get into national political news.  Then the bias is extreme.

Jim

Originally Posted by James Brown

Hi Rod - yes, I'm putting them in the same category.  I have to admit that I have watched them far less than you.  Especially Fox.  I get my news from Facebook.



Just kidding!



I read the WSJ, and several articles from the NYT, WaPO, New Republic, Federalist,  Vox and so on as linked by RCP each week.  In the car I listen to local NPR in general, but sometimes I listen to Fox Headline News on Sirius.   FHN seems pretty unbiased on the radio, but it is absolutely just the headlines.  No personalities.  NPR is great until they get into national political news.  Then the bias is extreme.

Jim

Originally Posted by James Lacey

NPR news is one of the least biased news sources around IMHO.

NPR opinion, like any opinion writing, is biased as heck!

And I think this highlights the crux of the problem in the never-ending argument about sources. Often we are comparing apples to oranges. Tucker Carlson is one of the most biased opinion mouthpieces on the planet. He is no different than any other left or right-wing performer that depends on confirmation bias, outrage reporting, and borderline defamation, libel, and slander, to monetize their content. Straight-up news content edited, vetted, and researched, be it from NPR, the WSJ, the AP, Reuters, or even CNN, is not that bad. CNN dot com, the website, is better than CNN's cable network, for example. Even Fox Local Network News is not that bad. Fox Cable news and opinion is atrocious. The Blaze and other right-wing internet news sites are off the charts and in a class of their own. Needless to say, it's a complicated and confusing news landscape.

Originally Posted by Greg Shaffer

So let me follow the logic here..... We have vaccines that are not supposed to prevent you from catching the virus but rather prevent it from making you as sick as you would get without vaccine. At least that is my understanding.

So if that is the case how does someone who chooses not to take the vaccine endanger those who do take it? 

If the vaccine does not prevent the spread of the virus but rather just mitigates the effect of the virus on those who do choose to take it I dont see how anyone making the choice not to take it is endangering anyone but themselves......

One of us is working with faulty logic here James

Originally Posted by Greg Shaffer

So they are less likely to catch it and if they do they arent likely to get as sick.....got it. Doesnt answer the question though....How is someone who chooses not to take it endangering anyone but themselves?

Originally Posted by Greg Shaffer

So those that take the vaccine couldnt do that?....Really? lol

Originally Posted by Greg Shaffer

So do you believe the above applies to those of us who have had the virus and recovered as well? 

Originally Posted by James Lacey

Absolutely. The immune response from the vaccine is superior and guaranteed to be so phenomenal that your protection is over 90% and 100% protection from hospitalization or death. The integrity of an immune response from a prior illness is entirely unknown. Further, the NIH and the CDC looked at this exact question by studying people who had been sick with COVID, people who received convalescent plasma and vaccinated people. The vaccinated group's antibody response was far superior. It's also true that the antibody response from being sick with COVID is different. Your body produces multiple different antibodies to attack the virus when you are suffering from it, some that are effective, others that are not. The immune response from the vaccine only triggers antibodies that target the spike protein, which is how the virus infects your cells. It's a far superior response in protecting you from future infection in every way regardless of whether or not you have been previously sick.