Posts Made By: Rod Kaufman

Biden is going to deliver an address to the nation this afternoon. But maybe he should have done what Trump wanted to do and invited the Taliban to Camp David instead...

"Former President Donald Trump on Sunday expressed support for pulling U.S. military forces out of Afghanistan, calling a withdrawal "wonderful and positive," but pushed back on President Biden's September 11 deadline for leaving the country.
Mr. Trump said in a statement he believes the U.S. should leave Afghanistan earlier than when Mr. Biden has called for, and took credit for laying the groundwork for American troops to leave the country before September 11, the 20th anniversary of the terrorist attacks that launched the U.S. into its longest war.
"I made early withdraw possible by already pulling much of our billions of dollars and equipment out and, more importantly, reducing our military presence to less than 2,000 troops from the 16,000 level that was there," he said."
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-afghanistan-war-withdrawal/

Originally Posted by Greg Shaffer

So what Rod? Biden and his administration OWN what is happening right now over there. That innocent blood is on their hands and no one elses. We were there when Trump took office and we were there when he left office. Just because Trump paid lip service to pulling out does NOT put the blame for doing so at his feet. Biden and his admin deserve the credit for this slaughter regardless of how you paint it.

I have little doubt now that the MSM has shamed Biden out of his hidey hole to speak publicly on the issue this afternoon he and his minions will try to paint Trump with the blame but the fact remains they are the ones who pulled out and the thousands who are dying for that decision lay right at Biden's feet.

Trump... "took credit for laying the groundwork for American troops to leave the country before September 11"
And to that you say, "So what"!!!

Originally Posted by Greg Shaffer

Yep....so what. He DIDNT do it. He paid lip service to it, talk is cheap, actions get the credit and Biden and his minions OWN this.

Which Trump began in earnest with his troop pullout, down from 16000 to 2000 on his watch and would have continued to do so if he had been re-elected. That troop drawdown was a considerable drawdown and not lip service...

Originally Posted by Greg Shaffer

Once again....so what? Bottom line is we left on Biden's watch, the decision to do so belongs to Biden. The thousands of innocent deaths belong to Biden. Or are you claiming that Biden had no choice in the matter? That he couldnt reverse the former President's plan? LOL

I haven't read that "thousands of innocent deaths" have occurred as the result of the pullout.. Please cite your source. 
I believe it's delusional to think that either Trump or Biden would have done a "surge" in Afghanistan so a pullout would have occurred with either one...

Originally Posted by Richard Davis

The Editors of USA Today indicate that there needs to be a Congressional Investigation into just who in the Biden Administration is Responsible for the Catastrophe in Afghanistan.

  Headline:  Disastrous Afghanistan exit demands tough congressional hearings

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/todaysdebate/2021/08/18/afghanistan-exit-biden-team-owes-america-allies-answers/8150189002/

From the Article:  America's greatest foreign policy debacle in more than a generation will demand congressional hearings to understand what went wrong with America's disastrous exit from Afghanistan.



** Vote for Larry Elder for Governor of California and throw Gavin Newsom out on his ear

I'd like to see another "congressional" investigation, as per the OPINION piece in USA. Who wouldn't want another Benghazi-like investigation(s).  They ceratainly accomplished a lot, now didn't they?
Perhaps we could start the investigation with the deal and the meeting that Pompeo made with the Taliban leadership while excluding the Afghan government that set the stage for what has happened.  Chris Wallace asked Pompeo about it a few days ago: "Mr Wallace responded, however, by pointing out that Mr Pompeo himself had pushed to legitimise the Taliban’s leadership under the Trump administration, which eventually inked a ceasefire deal that largely resulted in the Taliban shifting their military attacks to target local security forces and the Afghan National Army."
https://news.yahoo.com/pompeo-confronted-fox-news-legitimising-204957342.html
Maybe that "tough congressional investigation" can start with that...

Richie Davis: "Pompeo has no responsibility for the worst Debacle in US Military actions in 4 decades."
Except that he "inked the deal" himself: 
" Mr Pompeo himself had pushed to legitimise the Taliban’s leadership under the Trump administration, which eventually inked a ceasefire deal that largely resulted in the Taliban shifting their military attacks to target local security forces and the Afghan National Army."
https://news.yahoo.com/pompeo-confronted-fox-news-legitimising-204957342.html

Speaking of Fox News and their take on the people of Afghanistan:
https://www.cnn.com/videos/media/2021/08/18/taliban-fox-news-gop-take-this-dlt-vpx.cnn/video/playlists/business-media/

Richie, Do you actually agree with Laura Ingraham's statements in the video?

Originally Posted by Richard Davis

... that when he met with Taliban leaders, he gave them the lowdown that during the US withdrawal of troops, if there was ANY action taken against US soldiers, US civilians, or the Afghanis, that he would target their vilages and their loved ones directly, and it would be an enormous attack, the likes of which they had never seen before.

And by the way, just for the lying left out there, Pompeo confirmed that the lies that Joe Biden has been personally spreading about the agreement that Trump/Pompeo made, were just that, outright lies.

Joe Biden lied during his speech the other day saying that Trump/Pompeo had negiotiated a deal w/ the Taliban outside of the knowledge of the Afghani leaders.

Pompeo indicated and said that the Afghan leadership was right there in the room with the US and Taliban and they were on board with everything that was negotiated.

They didn't beg the Taliban not to hurt the Americans in the embassy the way that Biden begged them..

"Pompeo indicated and said that the Afghan leadership was right there in the room with the US and Taliban and they were on board with everything that was negotiated.'
That's the lie.
And the Taliban leader whom we now have is the one that Pompeo met with and pressured the Afghangan government to release from prison and they did only it because of that pressure.
Trump: “I started the process, all the troops are coming home,” he told supporters at a rally in Wellington, Ohio in late June. “What are we going to say? We’ll stay for another 21 years, then we’ll stay for another 50. The whole thing is ridiculous.” And few months before that, in April of this year, Trump was clear about where he stood: “We can and should get out earlier…Getting out of Afghanistan is a wonderful and positive thing to do. I planned to withdraw on May 1st.” Trump’s former National Security Advisor even agrees, saying the former president “would’ve done essentially the same thing” as Biden."
https://www.motherjones.com/mojo-wire/2021/08/donald-trump-statement-joe-biden-afghanistan/