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Posts Made By: Rod Kaufman

August 19, 2021 05:51 AM Forum: Politics

Former President Donald Trump made it clear last night...

Posted By Rod Kaufman

Originally Posted by Richard Davis

PLVW,

    No, not a lie.  Do you have any proof that the Afghan leaders weren't there?  

The only one lying is you, as usual.  
Do you see them in the picture? Pompeo got the taliban leader out of jail and made the deal with him. That's an undisputed fact...

August 19, 2021 05:55 AM Forum: Politics

Former President Donald Trump made it clear last night...

Posted By Rod Kaufman

Originally Posted by Greg Shaffer
Not only is Rod full of shit on this one but Trump had put everything in place to get everyone that needed to be gotten out, out of there before the final pull out of the remaining troops. Biden ignored that and endangered them all......which is why they are now having to send even more troops back. Biden botched the whole thing royally, so badly in fact it seems obvious it was on purpose. One has to wonder what that was meant to be a distraction from?
No you and Richie are full of it. The only thing Trump put back in place were the Taliban! He literally got the Taliban leader out of an Afghan jail, where he belonged, then made a deal with him and excluded the Afghan government from the process. It's no wonder the Afghan government fell as quickly as it did. It had already been undermined by Trump and Pompeo. 

August 19, 2021 06:44 AM Forum: Politics

Former President Donald Trump made it clear last night...

Posted By Rod Kaufman

Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman

No you and Richie are full of it. The only thing Trump put back in place were the Taliban! He literally got the Taliban leader out of an Afghan jail, where he belonged, then made a deal with him and excluded the Afghan government from the process. It's no wonder the Afghan government fell as quickly as it did. It had already been undermined by Trump and Pompeo. 
"... the real date that the Taliban’s victory was assured is Feb. 29, 2020, the day the Trump administration signed what it characterized as a “peace” deal with the Taliban. Once this agreement was signed — the tragic collapse we witnessed this weekend was inevitable.
Of course, the agreement was not, and could not possibly have been, a “peace” deal since one of the parties currently at war — the Afghan government — was not a signatory. Rather, this was a “withdrawal” agreement between the U.S. and the Taliban that set the terms for the complete departure of American troops from Afghanistan by May 2021."
https://thehill.com/opinion/national-security/568154-trumps-deal-with-the-taliban-set-the-stage-for-the-afghan-collapse

August 19, 2021 07:53 AM Forum: Politics

Former President Donald Trump made it clear last night...

Posted By Rod Kaufman

The real clown boys here are Trump and his sidekick, Pompeo along with the Taliban leader they busted out from an Afghan prison. They sure showed the Afghan government who the real boss is. It's no wonder the Afghan government got out of Dodge...

August 19, 2021 08:25 AM Forum: Politics

Former President Donald Trump made it clear last night...

Posted By Rod Kaufman

Originally Posted by Richard Davis

Simple Answer.  Biden and his administration have been in charge since Jan. 20th.  

Show me where they were taking orders from Donald Trump and Mike Pompeo.

Oh, you can't show me that, since Trump isn't giving orders you say? 

You mean to tell me that Trump hasn't had a say over any military action since he left office 7 months ago and that Biden has been in Charge and has been the Commander in Chief for 7 months now?

Isn't that funny!  wink
"The real clown boys here are Trump and his sidekick, Pompeo along with the Taliban leader they busted out from an Afghan prison. They sure showed the Afghan government who the real boss is."
That's all the Afghan government needed to see. And that Taliban leader Trump and Pompeo freed from prison?  He emerged from a cave somewhere as... the Taliban leader. 

August 19, 2021 09:25 AM Forum: Politics

Former President Donald Trump made it clear last night...

Posted By Rod Kaufman

Originally Posted by Greg Shaffer
You wouldnt know truth if it bit you in the ass Rod..... The catastrophe unfolding in Afghanistan will undoubtedly go down as one of the most shameful foreign policy disasters in American history, and the responsibility for this clusterfuck falls squarely on President Joe Biden.

In April, when President Biden announced – against the advice of senior military leaders – that he planned to pull all U.S. forces out of Afghanistan by September 11, 2021, his Administration assured the American people that his withdrawal would be “responsible, deliberate and safe.”

Three weeks later, the Taliban launched a major offensive that quickly pushed back Afghan government forces. Still in July President Biden dismissed the Taliban and claimed that “the likelihood there’s going to be the Taliban overrunning everything and owning the whole country is highly unlikely.”

It is an indisputable fact that Joe Biden terribly mismanaged his withdrawal from Afghanistan. Furthermore, it is painfully obvious that he made no preparations in case he had miscalculated. The consequences for his folly are devastating and deadly.

Thousands of Americans remain stranded in Afghanistan. Our foreign allies face retribution from the Taliban. The terrible images of Afghans falling from the sky after clinging desperately to planes leaving Kabul will be etched into our memory. Billions of dollars in U.S. military equipment is now in the Taliban’s hands, including helicopters, armored vehicles, anti-aircraft guns, artillery, and even combat aircraft not to mention thousands of small arms and ammunition. Across the globe, our partners and allies are questioning whether they can truly rely on America’s promises. There’s no doubt that we will be feeling the aftershocks from the fall of Afghanistan for years to come.

Contrary to the pitiful claims of senior Biden Administration officials, this outcome was not inevitable. While I believe that maintaining a small U.S. presence in Afghanistan was necessary for our national security, I also believe it was possible to withdraw without causing an unmitigated disaster.

Last year, President Donald Trump negotiated a conditions-based drawdown of U.S. forces from Afghanistan. In other words, American troops would leave only so long as the Taliban held to their end of the deal.

President Biden has pointed to this agreement to claim that he had inherited this withdrawal from his predecessor and suggest that Donald Trump is to blame. What else is new? This is a sad attempt to spin the narrative and duck responsibility.

First, the Taliban has continuously violated the conditions of this agreement, thereby making it null and void. Second, Biden has made no effort whatsoever to hold the Taliban accountable for breaking the deal. Third, considering how Biden has reversed and overturned Trump policies and agreements across the board on nearly every issue, it is simply preposterous to argue that this one single agreement (which the enemy has habitually broken) cannot be changed.

This is Joe Biden’s debacle.
"This outcome was not inevitable."
It is. If Trump was president, it would have already occurred earlier in the year. That's the only difference. Given the speed of the Taliban advance and the rapidity of the collapse of the Afghan army and the government, the same scenario would have played out, only earlier in the year. And what part of the "deal" that Trump and Pompeo made the Taliban did they break? The deal was they wouldn't attack US personnel and they didn't. They barely fired a shot as the entire country collapsed in front of them. They simply marched on in. It's ludicrous to somehow think it would have been different under Trump. After all, he gave up the Kurds, too...

August 19, 2021 10:43 AM Forum: Politics

Former President Donald Trump made it clear last night...

Posted By Rod Kaufman

Originally Posted by Richard Davis

Is this the best you can do, whine and blame Trump for everything.  

So according to YOU, there was a Dossier was there, a sort of NFL Playbook that this inept Joe Biden followed, that Donald Trump made him follow at gunpoint did he?

Talk about a pathetic blame game.

This is one of the worst.

I thought Joe Biden WANTED this job?

I thought fools like you told us that he was going to Correct all the terrible mistakes that Trump made.

Well then, explain why then, if Joe Biden had NO CHOICE but to follow Trump's rule book, that Joe Biden, didn't remove everyone on May 1st?

Explain that.

Oh, he was ABLE to CHANGE the conditions of withdrawal, was he?

But yet, he had a written document that told him HOW to leave did he?  

What an inept fool, if that is the case, and you're telling us all here, that's how it played out did it?

So according to all the lamebrains out there, the ONLY thing President Joe Biden was able to do was to push back the date of Withdrawal.

Other than that, he was BOUND by Donald Trump's ORDERS to do what Trump told him to do.

Got it, he's incapable of making a decision on his own as the new leader of the Nation.

He's still taking his marching orders from former President Donald Trump.

Thanks for clearing that all up for us.
When will you stop being an obtuse moron?
"Well then, explain why then, if Joe Biden had NO CHOICE but to follow Trump's rule book, that Joe Biden, didn't remove everyone on May 1st?
Explain that." 
Hmm, let me see...perhaps it's because he doesn't follow Trump's "rulebook". Nor is he obligated to do so and nor should he and thank God for that. 
Biden made it clear we were going to be leaving Afghanistan and even the stalwart Republicans in congress like Josh Hawley backed his decision to do so in April of this year. Nobody expected a May withdrawal. Not even the likes of you...

August 19, 2021 11:12 AM Forum: Politics

Former President Donald Trump made it clear last night...

Posted By Rod Kaufman

Originally Posted by Greg Shaffer


Bullshit.....Trump would have gotten our citizens and supporters OUT before pulling the military out.....Trump would have held the Taliban to their agreement or hit them hard as promised if they didnt. Biden? Well, we see what Biden would do lol
Lol! Just like he did for the Kurds?! He hung them out to dry and they got slaughtered. You can read about it here:
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/why-trump-decision-abandon-kurds-syria-disaster-898493/
Note the following: "The Kurds were holding 11,000 ISIS prisoners in northern Syria, along with thousands of other ISIS women and children. By pulling back U.S. troops and allowing Turkey to slaughter the Kurds, Trump has allowed for the possibility that many of these prisoners, who were apprehended through a years-long effort at the expense of thousands of Kurdish lives, would escape or be released."
Again, what "agreement" did Trump have with the Taliban? The one so-called agreement is that they wouldn't fire on US personnel. And they haven't done so. They didn't agree that they wouldn't walk or drive into any city or town in Afghanistan which they arguably consider to be their own country. 
Over and above that, it should be axiomatic that you can't have an actual "agreement" or a "deal" with the Taliban. The Taliban don't do politics; they do beheadings. You and a lot of others in America and elsewhere don't understand you're dealing with a fundamentalist Islamist state that considers lying to the infidel (us and anybody not like them) to be a coveted religious obligation, so there's never really any deal or agreement with the Taliban that they can't renege on because of their religious beliefs. 
The whole notion that Trump and Pompeo negotiated some sort of a deal that would have precluded what just occurred in Afghanistan and that Trump would have better prepared for it than Biden or anybody else is ludicrous...
  

August 19, 2021 10:24 PM Forum: Politics

Former President Donald Trump made it clear last night...

Posted By Rod Kaufman

"Sixty-two percent of Americans believe the Afghanistan War was not worth fighting, an opinion shared by a majority of Democrats and Republicans, according to The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research poll."
"The AP poll also found majorities do not believe the Iraq War, which started after the Afghanistan invasion, was worth fighting."
Do the forum members remember the president and the party who started both those wars?...
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/568527-majority-against-the-afghanistan-war-amid-criticism-of-us

August 19, 2021 10:45 PM Forum: Politics

Former President Donald Trump made it clear last night...

Posted By Rod Kaufman

Originally Posted by Greg Shaffer
Bout time to trot the finger back out I guess lol
Is that your response to post #18? 
And looking at your post defending Trump we see this: "Last year, President Donald Trump negotiated a conditions-based drawdown of U.S. forces from Afghanistan. In other words, American troops would leave only so long as the Taliban held to their end of the deal."
Trump negotiated with the Taliban? Lol! Where? At Camp David? Oh, he nixed that "secret meeting" when somebody in his administration leaked it, (normal for his administration) and nobody in their right mind could believe he would think you could negotiate with the taliban at Camp David! So, he sends Pompeo to Afghanistan where he springs the Taliban leader from prison to "negotiate" with him while leaving out the Afghan government from the "negotiation"!!! I mean, you can't make this stuff up! So, when the US leaves and the Taliban WALK-IN because the Afghan government was never part of the "negotiation", and the Afghan military sees it, they leave, too! 
So much for Trump's "negotiation"....