Posts Made By: Rod Kaufman

Originally Posted by Richard Davis

Funny how revisionist historians suddenly ignore the fact that at the time, the Democrats always claimed they had "advisors" there.

Back in the mid '50s Eisenhower pledged support for South Vietnam against the Viet Cong when Diem became the President of South Vietnam. 

Your assertion that we entered the war under Eisenhower is utterly absurd.  We didn't even have Advisors there until John Kennedy was elected.

Diem wasn't even Assassinated until 1963, and we never even entered a military engagement with the Viet Cong Until '64 when our boats were torpedoed by the DRV

It strikes me that the first actual military engagement which involved the US was the Gulf of Tonkin.  That was the very first time when we engaged with the Viet Cong military with our bombing raids using our aircraft.

Are you familiar with the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution you dipshit?  

Meatheads who read a quick snippet on the internet and then post a link, show their abject foolish ignorance. 

You really are the Cliff Claven of the forum and you prove it every time you open your mouth and stick your foot in it.

Let me Suggest a pretty good book to you.  It is titled "Vietnam, a History" and its written by Stanley Karnow.  

He takes the reader from the beginnings of the war in IndoChina to the end when we left.

You might actually learn something and grow your brain you buffoon.  

Then again I forgot, you don't read books, you read headlines.

Any fool that posits that the Republicans got us into the war in Vietnam proves what an absolute ignoramus he is.

You earned 5 big stars today for your abject stupidity! 

Originally Posted by Richard Davis

You know I'm  done trying to put forth facts to you.  

I've seen reasonable liberals before and I've seen leftists who are so obstinate that just make up their own truth as if it is factual.  You're the latter for certain.

Virtually every book I've ever read about Vietnam and every person whom I've discussions with, would concede that under John Kennedy, military presence became ramped up. He was a Democrat in case you don't know that.

The first military air operations engaged in by US forces began in 1962 under Kennedy.  He was a Democrat.

Johnson's Def. Sec. Robert McNamara was instrumental in getting US Forces over to Southeast Asia, and military equipment as well.

After that Johnson really began to engage with the air power which began with regular coordinated bombings in Vietnam through the middle '60s including bombing missions in Laos.

Since you're obviously a sage, let me just posit this little factoid to you.  

Books have been written about Vietnam, one was titled "McNamara's War".  

There is a reason for that.  

For you to contend that the Republicans got us into the war in Vietnam, is simply an indication of your ignorance on the subject.

Now I'm done dealing with buffoons like yourself.  

Originally Posted by James Lacey

Me either. I've mimicked him several times merely to try and throw up a mirror of self-reflection, and I find even that to be mentally exhausting.

Originally Posted by Greg Shaffer

I put him in within the Bubba category.....much like Bubba can rattle off ways to eat shrimp, he can rattle off headlines without understanding the content

Originally Posted by Greg Shaffer

Ohh I open links all the time, just not the ones you post Bubba lol

As for posting links, that is your thing, not mine. 

Originally Posted by James Lacey

LOL! Good grief, what a complete fool.

You completely ignore Trump's complicity and role in the Afghanistan disaster because you are a right-wing tool.

OMG, you can't make up what a fool you are.

Trump negotiated directly with the Taliban and ignored the Afghan government, you fool. He refused to brief the incoming administration team on the situation and boasted that he set in motion a troop withdrawal that no one could stop.

You ignore history because you want to white-wash Trump's disastrous foreign policy decisions that lead us here, you fool.

OMG, you can't make up what a fool you are.

Trump facilitated the release of 5,000 Taliban prisoners, you fool.

I wouldn't want to confuse the resident right-wing ignoramus with facts, but you really ought to pull your head out of Trump's back-side.

Trump wanted to invite the Taliban to Camp David on the anniversary of 9/11 and praised them as "tough negotiators," you fool.

According to your idiot logic, I suppose things would have gone better under Trump even though he bragged about not needing or having an exit plan?

Your stupidity never ceases to amaze me. LOL

No, I take that back. I'm at the point where I expect nonsense and dumbassery from you continuously.

You never fail to disappoint, now do you?

Originally Posted by James Lacey

Channeling right-wing whackos ==> bUT WhAt AbOUt BiDeN! hE's cOmMiTTed ImPeaCHabLe oFFenSeS!

The following is brilliant. It's Mike Pompeo, arguing with earlier Pompeo, in a split-screen.

Mike Pompeo is trying to rewrite history with Afghanistan. But don’t worry, we use the magic of TV to set the record straight.

https://mobile.twitter.com/MehdiHasanShow/status/1431051334308954113

Originally Posted by James Lacey

So, the way I see it, is Afghanistan is far more complicated than Richard's favorite false dichotomy Democrats always bad Republicans always good. It was after all a 20-year conflict, started by a Republican President, and then perpetuated by Democratic and Republican administrations alike, and now ended by a Democratic administration. To think that something like that can be distilled down to some flaming partisan talking point that blames only Democrats or the current administration for the Afghanistan hubris and folly is ridiculous.