Posts Made By: Rod Kaufman

Originally Posted by Richard Davis

With respect to #1, I don't think that. I know it.  And I'm talking about the Law abiding citizens, not the criminals.  

Your #2  statement there of course simply indicates the incredible level of ignorance you have about the situation.

There is a very slight possibility that more people might be dead, however that is doubtful, but if there were more dead, it would be the criminals.

Obviously you haven't the  wits to figure out that in Chicago, gang members are killing other gang members as well as the innocent who get in the way.

Tell me how it works in your liberal mind that concealed carry Americans are out shooting people at random.

Please explain your idiotic theory.

How exactly would there be MORE dead As a result of the concealed carry laws?

Be specific.  

" How exactly would there be MORE dead As a result of the concealed carry laws?"
Because there would be too many guns in too many hands, ie more of the same problem that we have now...

Originally Posted by Richard Davis

So then all you can muster is a moronic, simpleton's answer?

Actually, the idiotic response above isn't surprising.  

How many illegal concealed carry permit murders are committed every year?

Enlighten us all.  

Oh, so you've added "permit" to concealed carry which you didn't have in your previous post so it should be noted that too many guns in too many hands still applies given the average number of people shot per day(316) and the fact that as of 2020, 16 states don't require permits of any kind for concealed carry. So much for your "permit" concealed carry...

Inconvenient fact for gun grabbers: 316 average daily shootings in the good 'ole USA!

Originally Posted by Richard Davis

You're repeating yourself because you aren't educated enough to understand that a great number of those are in self-defense.

1/3 of shootings in the USA resulting in death are suicides.

Most of the shootings in the USA are gang members shooting other gang members and other citizens caught in the cross-fire, and they are shot with illegal weapons.

Virtually none of the intentional shootings in the USA are done by law abiding citizens committing crimes.

I would suggest you educate yourself and that way you won't make the ignorant remarks you've made about guns over the last decade.  

So the 1/3 of shootings in the USA by shootings for deaths by suicide in somehow a reasonable explanation in your mind?
Looks like you also forgot about the oops factor, like:
https://signalscv.com/2021/11/no-charges-filed-in-accidental-shooting-that-killed-canyon-country-man/
or
https://www.kxan.com/news/national-news/florida-dad-charged-months-after-toddler-shoots-mother-on-zoom-call/

Originally Posted by Mel Maki

Why shouldn't people have the right to defend themselves? Especially the older and weaker? Are you in 
a dream world where we can throw away our guns because nobody will need to protect themselves against other people? Are you one that does not have a gun so nobody else can have one?

?!
316 shootings on average per day in the USA and you talk about being in some sort of dream world? A nightmare would be accurate...

Originally Posted by Mel Maki

You are in a dream world if you think I will be safer, if the older and weaker will be safer if law abiding people give up their guns. You are in the biggest  dream world ever if you think the bad guys will give up their guns.
Even IF bad guys gave up their guns the older and weaker would be defenseless. You aren't even trying to think this through.
Do you listen to John Lennon's IMAGINE often?
You can imagine there are more than 300 million here?

Just don't do what the older and weaker did here:
https://signalscv.com/2021/11/no-charges-filed-in-accidental-shooting-that-killed-canyon-country-man/

Originally Posted by Mel Maki

You are in a dream world if you think I will be safer, if the older and weaker will be safer if law abiding people give up their guns. You are in the biggest  dream world ever if you think the bad guys will give up their guns.
Even IF bad guys gave up their guns the older and weaker would be defenseless. You aren't even trying to think this through.
Do you listen to John Lennon's IMAGINE often?
You can imagine there are more than 300 million here?

Let's go through it again for you, Mel, one more time:
The older and weaker example: a 66 year old woman awakens in the night, weak and defenseless, her first impulse is to grab a gun and fire! She doesn't turn a light on, doesn't fire a warning shot, doesn't scream "get out or I'll shoot!", she simply aims and fires thereby hitting her imaginary attacker squarely in the chest! Bullseye! THAT she can do! Her boyfriend never had a chance!
The toddler with a gun example: A woman is on a ZOOM call when a kid grabs a gun and fires, killing her while her co-worker on the call watches! Yikes! What if she got shot in the head? Can you imagine what the zoom party would see on the other end? Just think about that computer screen! Did you ever see the Kennedy assassination in frame by frame slow motion? Brain matter/skull splatter everywhere! Shit!
Not only that but: 
"Accidental gunshot deaths by children handling a gun jumped 31% during the start of the COVID-19 pandemic compared to a year earlier, new data shows."
"There were 98 deaths that resulted from unintentional shootings by children from March through December 2019 compared to 128 over that same period in 2020, research by the advocacy group Everytown for Gun Safety shows."
"And the trend continues to worsen during the pandemic, the groups says."
"So far, in 2021 there have been at least 259 unintentional shootings by children, resulting in 104 deaths and 168 injuries nationally, according to the group's #NotAnAccident Index. Everytown is a U.S. nonprofit that advocates for gun control."
"At that pace the organization projects these incidents in 2021 are set to surpass even the record reached in 2017. That year 383 cases of accidental shootings by kids occurred and at least 156 people were killed.'
"Accidental shootings by kids happen almost daily"
https://www.npr.org/2021/08/31/1032725392/guns-death-children

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Speechless Rich?! 
AS usual, when confronted with the facts!...

Originally Posted by Richard Davis

Actually Mel, it is moronic thinking.

The man is a complete buffoon. 

If he had a brain, his would rattle since it at best would be the size of a pea.  

Someone was killed with a gun, therefore no one should have them.  

A man ran over 50+ people the other day that he doesn't talk about.

I guess cars should be outlawed.

His is the thinking of a mental midget.  

Originally Posted by Richard Davis

No dipshit, I answered you above.

I told you that kids shouldn't have firearms.

Parents should keep their kids from their firearms.  

And now you laughingly say "As Usual"?

When have I ever backed away from a weasel and a lightweight like yourself?  

Answer is never.  

Go ahead and tell me what you would have done with John Lott coming to your door trying to kill you and the neighbor?

This is what you would have done.  You would have waited 'till he came to your door, then you would have hid behind your female neighbor's skirt and pushed her into him, while you ran away like the coward you are, leaving her to die at his hands.

Tell me I'm wrong.  

" 'we're gonna take your AR-15,"

https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/582534-orourke-says-he-stand-by-his-2019-were-gonna-take-your-ar-15-view