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Posts Made By: Rod Kaufman

January 7, 2022 06:39 AM Forum: Politics

Victor Davis Hanson on who the REAL insurrectionists are

Posted By Rod Kaufman

Originally Posted by James Lacey

  • Who is refusing to accept the clear and obvious results of a free and fair election despite their numerous failed attempts to prove election fraud?
  • Who tried to halt the electoral college count in Congress on Jan. 6th, 2021?
  • Who denied Obama a supreme court pick for almost a year, but rushed through ACB mere days before a Presidential election?
  • Who solicited foreign interference in aid for his election?
  • Who slandered veterans and gold star families?
  • Who utterly failed us when we were hit by the pandemic, and then down-played it and politicized it to cover that failure?
  • Who is the only party that sought to destroy the peaceful transfer of power with violence?
  • etc.
I'd add Dick Cheney's statements today upon visiting the capitol today:
“It’s an important historical event,” Cheney told ABC of the anniversary. “You can’t overestimate how important it is.”
“I’m deeply disappointed we don’t have better leadership in the Republican party to restore the Constitution,”
https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/588586-dick-cheney-visits-capitol-for-jan-6-criticizes-gop-leadership

January 7, 2022 08:01 AM Forum: Politics

Victor Davis Hanson on who the REAL insurrectionists are

Posted By Rod Kaufman

Originally Posted by James Brown

Hi James:

I believe your 1st, 2nd, and 7th points apply also to certain figures on the left in 2016.  You'll recall the 2017 inauguration day riots? 

Also:  https://www.cnn.com/2017/01/06/politics/electoral-college-vote-count-objections/index.html

And check out Q. 16 on page 5 here:  https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/4156951/2017-10-06-Democracy-Trend-for-Release.pdf.  HRC solicited foreign interference in the election of '16 with her bogus dossier as well.

Also, your point 6 applies to Biden as much as Trump doesn't it?  

I'm not defending Trump or the fringe morons who breached the capital a year ago.  I hope they rot in jail.  I am however, annoyed with the breathless, "Rs are one and all the end of democracy" stories we have been inundated with this week.  I get it that the D's have to run on something, and it probably is not going to be gasoline prices, but painting half the electorate as wild-eyed insurrectionists bent on destroying liberty is not a winning message in my opinion.

Please understand that I am not attacking you here, I am riffing off your post to attack the left and center press and punditry.

Jim 
I'm not buying your comparos as none of 'em come close in proximity to overturning a legitimate presidential election that was safest and most secure in the history of our nation. None of the comparos had the intent of doing so, let alone attempting to do it.
That said, I agree with you that the midterms will likely be decided on price of gasoline in which case we will more of the Trump sycophants in office, not to mention the election officials who currently further Trump's big lie and will likely act to overthrow the will of the people if another presidential election doesn't go their way... 

January 7, 2022 08:56 AM Forum: Politics

Victor Davis Hanson on who the REAL insurrectionists are

Posted By Rod Kaufman

Originally Posted by Mel Maki

But the "insurrection" also did not come close to "overturning a legitimate presidential election."

Also, Trump election officials are not "likely to act to overthrow the will of the people."
OMG, Lol!
Millions of loyal Trumptoids, indeed the majority of the Republican party, believes and is led to believe by its sycophantic leadership, that the election was "stolen" and Joe Biden is not the legitimate president of America. That's not to mention the planning and preparation behind Trump's plot to overthrow the legitimate election of Joe Biden.
Many of the Republican candidates running for election to certification boards believe in the big lie and openly support it. One whom was  on the Michigan election board and refused to certify the vote for Biden. That particular individual was also a rampant anti-vaxxer who died from covid recently but there are plenty of others like him running for election to certification boards.

January 8, 2022 04:31 AM Forum: Politics

Victor Davis Hanson on who the REAL insurrectionists are

Posted By Rod Kaufman

Originally Posted by Mel Maki

Oh, it is those millions of TRUMPTOIDS!! You fools even need to make up words.
Whoah!! There was a guy in MI  that did not want to certify the vote!! Oh wow, oh wow! Do you have anything better? It is not in your post.
Dems like you are standing on a wall of crap and it is going to collapse.

And maybe some will display their real nature-
people without my beliefs should just die!!
"Do you have anything better"?
I do: the fact is the decision to not certify the election came down to one man resisting a mountain of pressure to do it and that man was Mike Pence. He called two people on that day to ask if he could do it, one was Dan Quayle whom he contacted at a golf course and another was a retired conservative federal judge and both Quayle and the judge said "no way"! The rest is history although the chants to hang Mike Pence along with gallows to do it are still vivid memories of January 6th...  

January 9, 2022 02:06 AM Forum: Politics

Victor Davis Hanson on who the REAL insurrectionists are

Posted By Rod Kaufman

Originally Posted by Brian McFarland

What clips and news? Trump asked that the acting defense secretary (Miller IIRC) to provide troops to protect the "demonstrators", not to protect the capitol. Miller said no - it would look like a military coup. This is according to Miller's own testimony. It took all of 30 seconds to find this.

Of course this morphed into some fiction involving Pelosi which the gullible fringe lapped up.

When something doesn't even pass the smell test, why propagate it without a little scrutiny first?
Because you're dealing with somebody who believes in the big lie that the election was stolen. That's the mentality and the totality of it...

January 9, 2022 04:24 AM Forum: Politics

Victor Davis Hanson on who the REAL insurrectionists are

Posted By Rod Kaufman

Originally Posted by Greg Shaffer
Your desire to rewrite history is entertaining I will give you that......lol
The "only" one who is doing just that is yourself and the wingnuts you follow...

January 9, 2022 05:43 AM Forum: Politics

Victor Davis Hanson on who the REAL insurrectionists are

Posted By Rod Kaufman

Karl Rove on the January 6th insurrection:
"I've been a Republican my entire life, and believe in what the Republican Party, at its best, has represented for decades. There can be no soft-pedaling what happened and no absolution for those who planned, encouraged and aided the attempt to overthrow our democracy. Love of country demands nothing less. That's true patriotism."

January 9, 2022 06:05 AM Forum: Politics

Victor Davis Hanson on who the REAL insurrectionists are

Posted By Rod Kaufman

Originally Posted by Greg Shaffer


I cant say I know anyone who would disagree with that except the description of "attempt to overthrow our democracy" that is laughable........The problem lies with the left's false narrative of what actually happened. 
I see, KARL ROVE said that because he was just mistaken and was duped into believing "the left's false narrative of what actually happened."
Actually, what makes more sense is that you swallowed another dose of crazy pills this morning...

January 9, 2022 09:08 AM Forum: Politics

Victor Davis Hanson on who the REAL insurrectionists are

Posted By Rod Kaufman

Originally Posted by Greg Shaffer
Gotta hand it to him.....he said it pretty well.

"What we witnessed yesterday was the last gasps of a corrupt and discredited left-wing political and media establishment that has, for decades, driven our country into the ground—shipping away our jobs, surrendering our strength, sacrificing our sovereignty, attacking our history and values, and trying to turn America into a country that our people can barely recognize.

These radical leftists in Washington care NOTHING for American Democracy. All they care about is control over you, and wealth and riches for themselves.

But they are failing. No one believes them anymore. And the day is quickly coming when they will be overwhelmingly voted out of power.

Joe Biden’s voice is now the voice of desperation and despair.

His handlers gave him that speech to read yesterday because they know the unprecedented failures of his presidency and the left-wing extremism of the Pelosi-Schumer Congress have destroyed the Democrat Party.
Part of their panic is motivated by the realization that, just like the Russia Collusion Hoax, they cannot sustain the preposterous fabrications about January 6 much longer. The truth is coming out.

But for them, the worst part of it all is the knowledge that the American People are seeing right through their phony media event—which despicably compared a Pelosi-led security failure at the Capitol to the darkest days in American history and the deaths of 3,000 Americans.

The people see right through that sham. They see a cynical politician who ran for office promising unity who is now doing the most divisive thing possible—slandering his political opponents as domestic terrorists, just like insecure dictators do in communist countries.

The American People also see that January 6 has become the Democrats’ excuse and pretext for the most chilling assault on the civil liberties of American citizens in generations. It is being used to justify outrageous attacks on free speech, widespread censorship, de-platforming, calls for increased domestic surveillance, appalling abuse of political prisoners, labeling opponents of COVID lockdowns and mandates as national security threats, and even ordering the FBI to target parents who object to the radical indoctrination of their children in school. And this week, January 6 is also the Democrats’ excuse for trying to pass a radical Federal takeover of state election law. They are trying to BAN voter ID and other basic measures that can ensure the sacred integrity of the vote.
The reason the Democrats are doing all of this is not because they believe they will win a fair and honest election. It’s because they know they will overwhelmingly LOSE one.

Remember, I am not the one trying to undermine American Democracy—I am the one trying to SAVE American Democracy.

Today, I am more confident than ever in the strength and common sense of the American People. They are counting the days until we will no longer have to be constantly lectured, lied to, and dictated to by corrupt politicians and their media partners. When we will no longer have to put up with this broken establishment’s hoaxes and its manufactured media narratives—And as Biden and his radical handlers know, that day is coming fast. Because in the months and years ahead, the American People are going to speak up, take action, and VOTE in massive numbers, and we are going to TAKE BACK OUR COUNTRY.

From the very beginning, all that Americans have wanted is great jobs, safe neighborhoods, strong borders, good schools, a proud nation, and a government that LISTENS to the American People. That is what our movement has always been about—and that is what we are focused on to this day.

Joe Biden and the Radical Democrats have failed on every front. But do not lose hope. America WILL be Great Again." - Donald Trump
Like I say, anyone who is crazy enough to believe the big lie that the election was "stolen" from the man who said it is crazy enough believe the above, too...

January 7, 2022 08:09 AM Forum: Politics

DeSantis

Posted By Rod Kaufman

Originally Posted by James Brown

MIA?  Didn't he release his schedule when AOC challenged him with the same nonsense.  Also, I gather that he has been spending time with his wife who is undergoing chemo.  

Anyway, omicron is going to infect most all of us sooner or later, vaxed or not.  I assume that DeSantis is vaxed and boosted.  Hopefully omicron or its successor will not be so bad for most of us.  CO is clipping along at an over 25% positivity rate.  That would have been the end of the health care system as we know it a year ago.

Jim
"I assume that DeSantis is vaxed and boosted."
Then why won't he say it when asked? What kind of message does that send? And his office released some sort of schedule? Funny that nobody can vouch for it except his own staff...