Posts Made By: Rod Kaufman

Along with what will likely clip the wings of guns companies from pushing their product:
"Remington Arms to pay $73 million to nine Sandy Hook families":
" Remington Arms will pay $73 million to the families of five children and four adults killed in the Sandy Hook Elementary School massacre, the families said on Tuesday, marking the first time a gunmaker has agreed to a major settlement over a mass shooting in the United States."
"The nine families sued in 2014 and spent years in the courts trying to hold Remington liable, despite a U.S. law that protects gunmakers and dealers from most civil litigation and two bankruptcy filings by Remington."
"The Sandy Hook families found a way around that legal protection for gunmakers by claiming that Remington's marketing of firearms contributed to the massacre."
"After the Cerberus private equity firm bought Remington in 2007, it launched aggressive campaign that pushed sales of AR-15s through product placement in first-person shooter videogames and by touting the AR-15 as an effective killing machine,"
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/nine-sandy-hook-families-settle-liability-claims-with-remington-arms-2022-02-15/

Originally Posted by Greg Shaffer

Fuck off Rod.....I seriously doubt anyone here thinks Russia attacking ANY country is a good thing..... 

"Some of former President Trump’s closest allies have questioned why the U.S. would side with Kyiv over Moscow at all and expressed skepticism that it’s worth pouring American resources into the conflict."
“Russia invading Ukraine is not an immediate threat to the security of the American people, homeland, and way of life. The flow of dangerous drugs, crime, and criminals over our sovereign border is,” echoed Rep. Paul Gosar (R-Ariz.)."
"Others are suggesting, without evidence, that Biden’s actions to side with Ukraine could benefit the business interests of his son, Hunter, who previously served on the board of a Ukrainian energy company. Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) argued that Biden is “compromised” and renewed her regular calls for his impeachment."
"Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), however, said this week that he thinks Biden is “moving in the right direction” to deter Russian aggression. " 
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/591906-gop-faces-divisions-over-siding-with-ukraine-against-russia
So, Greg, you expect people to believe you and your fellow cons support Mitch McConnell over representatives like Marjorie Taylor Greene and Paul Gossar?
“My office is now getting calls from folks who say they watch Tucker Carlson and are upset that we’re not siding with Russia in its threats to invade Ukraine, and who want me to support Russia’s ‘reasonable’ positions,”
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/591906-gop-faces-divisions-over-siding-with-ukraine-against-russia
So Greg, what about Tucker?  What about Georgia's Marjorie Taylor Greene?

Originally Posted by Greg Shaffer

I think I already made my position clear Rod......Talking heads and loudmouth politicians are not a factor for me nor anyone who thinks for themselves any more than sniveling shits looking to throw out bait are lol

This, from the guy who proudly admitted throwing out bait, along with Rich, in another recent thread...

Originally Posted by Greg Shaffer

When responding to TROLLS like this one, sure.


"I would think the Cons on the forum would be ecstatic to know their comrades in Russia are about to roll over another Democracy."

Isn't that what their fellow cons on Faux news and elsewhere in the GOP have been saying all along? As I've already pointed it out, they're siding with Russia so why wouldn't one think that the cons here on the forum wouldn't be in agreement?
https://www.defenseone.com/policy/2022/01/republicans-are-split-over-ukraine-threatening-rare-bipartisan-consensus/361159/

Originally Posted by James Brown

Hi Jim. 

Although I generally would not drop an F-bomb myself, Greg was responding to this:

"I would think the Cons on the forum would be ecstatic to know their comrades in Russia are about to roll over another Democracy."

This is a really nasty and unwarranted thing to say.  If an F-bomb is ever justified, Rod's scurrilous accusation justifies one.  Also, Greg had a nice concise explanation after the F-bomb.  The second sentence after his F-you was part of why I replied "well put" too. 

Jim

p.s. At the risk of being overly pedantic; Rod's original troll was directed at cons on the forum.  Greg's reply specifically defended cons on the forum.  Rod's pivot to the opinions of any crazy right-wing politicians he might find is irrelevant to Greg's reply and my endorsement of Greg's reply. 

It would be nice to see that same righteous indignation directed towards the likes of Tucker Carlson, Josh Hawley, Paul Gossar and Marjorie Taylor Greene instead of me particularly in light of their comments regarding Russia Vs Ukraine but also in light of their previous commentary posted in threads in this forum which have either gone ignored or undisputed by the cons in the forum. Given the far right views of the cons here on issues ranging from being anti-vaccines to bogus treatments for covid, it's not inconsistent to think they might embrace the far right views on Ukraine and Russia, too...

Originally Posted by James Brown

Hi Rod:

I don't watch or listen to Tucker Carlson, Josh Hawley, Paul Gossar, and/or Marjorie Taylor Greene.   So I can't really comment on anything they say, write or tweet.  I never do.

Jim

While I'm glad to know that, my point remains that a lot of the right wing does so it's not unreasonable to believe other right wingers do to...

Originally Posted by Mel Maki

The shows we talk about here and many of the "issues" we talk about here are not nearly as important to most voters as we think they are. I would not be shocked if 1 or 2 in a hundred voters listened to these people you get worked up about. Tucker Carlson? Of the names you mentioned he might get the most listeners.

You couldn't be more wrong. Take one of the most extreme of the extremists, Marjorie Taylor Greene: "Politico called Greene’s result “eye-popping” and “staggering,” a sign that she “appears to have actually benefited from all the controversies that have consumed her first few months in office.”
https://www.propublica.org/article/how-josh-hawley-and-marjorie-taylor-greene-juiced-their-fundraising-numbers

Originally Posted by Mel Maki

"You couldn't be more wrong."
No, you couldn't be more gullible.
Why do you take these links as gospel?
The people that write this stuff amp it up, trying their best to hit their target audience, get hits, get paid. 

Lol! Again, you couldn't be more wrong. The political donations that the figures are based upon are a matter of public record...

Originally Posted by Richard Davis

HA!!!   

YOUR administration, the Obama administration permitted Russia to roll into Crimea, and YOU in particular got on here and excused Russia, you friggin' clown, saying that Crimea was theirs ALL ALONG.

Joe Biden and Barack Obama said not a word as Russian rolled tanks into Crimea.  

The only one siding with Russia was YOU and YOUR Democrats. 

You're so full of shit its coming out the sides of your fat head!  

BS!
Here's what Obama had to contend with in the GOP:
" what’s going on now reminded him of September, when Obama pushed for military strikes against Syria and was rebuffed by a sudden eruption of anti-interventionism, first by the GOP but joined by Democrats. People in Putin’s circle sneered to him about the president’s problems on the Hill, McFaul said."
“They most certainly saw that as a constraint on the president’s powers,” McFaul said. Obama’s “weakness was not about his assessment of Russia. His weakness was about democratic constraints on what he could do — that Putin does not face.”
"It’s not like American politicians have a history of having only one view of international affairs. For years under President George W. Bush, Republicans often returned to the argument that Democrats opposing his plans in Iraq and Afghanistan were comforting the enemy."
https://www.politico.com/story/2014/03/democrats-obama-ukraine-russia-crimea-104322

This is what Fox news viewers are hearing tonight:
"President Biden is making it increasingly clear he cares more about Ukrainian sovereignty than American sovereignty and more about the Ukrainian economy than the American economy, despite being the current president of the United States, Jesse Watters said Tuesday."
https://www.foxnews.com/media/jesse-watters-biden-ukraine-problems-america
Do you realize how stupid that statement is and how dumb you have to be to believe it?