Posts Made By: Rod Kaufman

Originally Posted by Mel Maki

I could only suggest there might be presidents that could have persuaded the nation to help sooner.

Really? Care to name them?

Originally Posted by Mel Maki

JFK did have a lot of staying power. Even after the Bay of Pigs his popularity remained high.

Kevin McCarthy is  claiming he wanted to get weapons to Ukraine earlier but Biden said wait until they invade.

Biden had already sent in weapons to Ukraine before Russia invaded...

Originally Posted by Mel Maki

They would be arguing what and how many.

So now it seems we're the past the false statement that Biden had waited to send weapons to Ukraine until after the invasion to arguing what and how many.
Back in December:
"The State Department spokesperson said the Biden administration in December approved $200 million in additional defensive security assistance to Ukraine, along with $60 billion in lethal and non-lethal equipment from existing U.S. military stocks."
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/us-clears-baltic-states-send-us-made-weapons-ukraine-2022-01-20/
Back in January:
"U.S. officials confirmed to CBS News that the Biden administration had given permission to several NATO allies to send emergency shipments of U.S.-made weapons — including anti-tank missiles — to Ukraine to reinforce the country's defenses. State Department sources said allies including Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania and the U.K. were cleared to make "Third Party Transfers" of U.S.-made and supplied equipment to Ukraine, which one official described as part of a race "to get as much gear to the Ukrainians as quickly as possible."
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/russia-ukraine-war-biden-us-weapons-nato/

Originally Posted by Mel Maki

At first glance it looks like he is arguing they were not delivered as early as they could have been delivered. 
Are you arguing there would be no benefit to them being delivered any earlier?

Let me see, we've been delivering substantial weapons deliveries, as have other countries, since December and well before the invasion. How far back does one have to go? Coming from Kevin McCarthy, a man known for making specious arguments, it's up to him and you, if you believe him, to provide evidence that weapons weren't provided in time to Ukraine. 

Originally Posted by Mel Maki

And if it wasn't done well let's not talk about it?

And if you don't have any evidence that it wasn't, then why should we?

Originally Posted by Mel Maki

More weapons earlier would have made it more difficult for Putin. People were hoping some weapons and sanctions were enough. They were not. Helping Putin with the pipeline did not help.
Everybody agree Taiwan should get more weapons?

Maybe Mel can explain this one. If Kevin McCarthy thought weapons weren't being delivered as early as he thought they should, then why, as the leader of the Republican party in the House of Representatives, did he not submit a resolution requesting and or demanding that it be done earlier? 
I don't recall him complaining back in December that weapons deliveries to Ukraine were too late, do you? This is just another GOP-invented talking point designed to score political points among the base and Mel just can't let go of it...

Originally Posted by Mel Maki

Your position is goofy. Denying more and sooner would have helped. You are not helping the Dems.

Your position is to parrot the goofy position of Kevin McCarthy. I don't see the senate Republicans signing on to his nonsense, do you?
Additionally, "Republican members of Congress who refused to hold then-President Donald Trump accountable for delaying congressionally approved military aid to Ukraine are now criticizing President Biden for not providing more military aid to the nation."
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/kevin-mccarthy-republicans-ukraine-military-aid-1314512/

Originally Posted by Mel Maki

After Trump's refusal more aid became even more important. Why don't you think they deserved more aid sooner?  Are you in the group that thinks we should let Putin control them? That group has some good arguments.

I see your comments become even more irrational as we go on. Why don't you consult Kevin McCarthy and ask him if and when Ukraine deserved more aod sooner? He didn't have a problem with it being delivered in December since he said nothing back then.
"Are you in the group that thinks we should let Putin control them? That group has some good arguments."
What the ----are you even talking about?!

Originally Posted by Mel Maki

Most anybody would admit that having more weapons sooner would have helped Ukraine. But not Rod.

Most anybody with a half a brain would realize Kevin McCarthy is playing the blame game by trying to pin it on Biden but not Mel...

Originally Posted by Mel Maki

You are hung up on some blame game. I am not. I am making the simple argument that more arms sooner would have helped Ukraine. 

"I am making the simple argument that more arms sooner would have helped Ukraine."
Simple is as simple does....