Originally Posted by James Brown
I'm surprised Rod, do you actually think expanding NATO to include Ukraine some time in the past would have been a good idea? I think it would have been a terrible idea to provoke Putin in that manner. Hopefully it is obvious that I don't think this justifies the invasion. But if I understand Paul, he has in the past been against expanding NATO to Russia's border. I agree.
Could be I'm missing your point. Please let me know if I am. Jim
No, I didn't think expanding NATO up to Russia's borders was a good thing in the past but I'm glad Finland and Sweden are going to be doing it now. Ukraine and the rest of the world has made it clear it's not going into NATO and if it ever did it would be long after Putin passed.
"On 12 June 2020, Ukraine joined NATO's enhanced opportunity partner interoperability program. According to an official NATO statement, the new status "does not prejudge any decisions on NATO membership."
"Ukraine has not entered NATO — essentially because of Russia's opposition to it and the conflict that its admission would cause."
https://www.npr.org/2022/03/27/1088683957/what-is-nato-ukraine-russia-putin
That said, NATO has not expanded to Russia's borders from where they've already been and, needless to say, there's never been any threats directed against Russia from NATO. This IS Putin talking point (along with "de-natizifying" Ukraine insanity) and is the same crazy rhetoric coming from Paul regarding NATO...