Posts Made By: Rod Kaufman

Originally Posted by Richard Davis

LOL! 

Yeah, I remember when I was in elementary school around 5th grade and my teachers told me that FDR saved the country with his New Deal Program.

I guess the difference between you and I is that my brain actually grew and I started thinking for myself and reading books.

You should try it sometime.  

Just a statistical fact that you might want to consider, which is that as other nations around the world lowered their unemployment rate during the 1930s from their very high percentages, the US under Roosevelt continued to stagnate and by 1938 as most other developed countries in the world had unemployment rates hovering around 10%, the US in 1938 still had a national unemployment rate of 19.8%. 

FDR's New Deal programs he instituted only prolonged the Great Depression.  

Originally Posted by Brian McFarland

No matter how crazy and destructive they might be? For me, that crosses a line that I find unacceptable, and one that the GOP seems to have no problem crossing, no matter who it is (including the worst of the worst). With Haley, we're talking about conspiracy theory election denying buffoons, but have you ever asked yourself why the worst hate groups in the country are drawn to the GOP? The FBI labels these groups as the worst internal threats we face.

Then there's the obvious in Haley's case: She says she will not support these election denying Trump worshippers, then turns right round and does so. In a big way! Win at all costs, I guess, even if it means discarding whatever principles you might have. NO THANK YOU.

Originally Posted by James Brown

I don't think the bold part is true.  Sure the KKK and modern groups like the Proud Boys are drawn to the GOP.  I really dislike agreeing with Rich as a matter of principle, but in my opinion the BLM or Antifa organized and inspired riots and murders of the past few summers are of equivalent threat to public safety and order as the Proud Boys and the like.   

It is really hard, or maybe impossible to draw distinctions between the relative threat or vileness of various hate groups.  The sources we have for this information are simply too biased.   

Regarding the part I highlighted in red, you've mentioned Haley's alleged flip flop a couple of times without any sourcing.  Who was it who identified the candidates she endorsed as, "election denying Trump worshippers?"  Frankly, this comes across as a hit job on Haley penned by someone whom you read.  That is to be expected, this is hardball politics.  But if you could, source this out, I'd like to compare Haley's actual earlier statement with the list of whom she is endorsing.  I'd really like to look at the candidates she is endorsing to see if they are run of the mill Rs or indeed genuine "election denying Trump worshippers" like Rod's crush, Marj.  

I've Googled around, but not a lot.

Here is Haley endorsing an anti-Trump candidate.
https://www.postandcourier.com/politics/nikki-haley-endorses-nancy-mace-for-reelection-to-congress-in-2022/article_ef22d400-8820-11ec-b955-07917632dae4.html

Here is another one, she endorsed my personal favorite from Colorado, Joe ODea.  Joe drew personal ire from Trump for actively denouncing him and his election fraud BS.  Haley's endorsement of O'Dea is about as vigorous a slap in the face to Trump as one could ask for.  Indeed, you would have about as good a chance of persuasively calling me a Trump loving election denier as you would have of calling Joe ODea that or anything like that!
https://www.coloradopolitics.com/elections/2022/nikki-haley-endorses-bennet-challenger-joe-odea-in-colorado-us-senate-race/article_f12119c2-3e6b-11ed-8ad4-a783dba09243.html

Mike Lee is suspect.  https://www.sltrib.com/news/politics/2022/06/09/sen-mike-lee-embraces/  He is sure trying to walk the fine line though.  I don't know that much about him.  Haley did endorse him several months ago.

She apparently recently endorsed Oz in PA.  Not sure about Walker or other celebrity candidates. 

Can you find me a quote where Haley herself supports Trump's election denier mythology?  She slammed him pretty hard in February:  https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/12/us/politics/nikki-haley-trump.html

Jim


 

Originally Posted by Greg Shaffer

There you go making assumptions that are just plain stupid......Not once have I said anything in support of her.....

Originally Posted by James Brown

Rod is reflecting the left's hard-ball politics here.  They are running against bogey-men like "Trump and MTG" in 2024.  Bogey men that in actuality would lose a lot of possible voters, like you.  Another hard-ball tactic is this "Haley is lying her head off" bit that Rod posted.  In reality, Nikki Haley has 10,000 times more integrity than Kamala Harris for example, but that will not pierce the bubble of 50% of the voters. 

If my dream match up in '24 of Haley v. Harris were to happen, expect the press to paint Haley as a less-likable, less-honest, and more corrupt version of Donald Trump, without any of his better qualities.  The press will also cast her ethnicity and gender in a bad light, somehow.  A black host on the View already started that process (and failed mightily).  Rod will eat it up and re-post here though.  

It's not like this sort of hard-ball politics is new.  The Rs ran against 'Clinton' for at least 12 years!  Jim 

Originally Posted by Greg Shaffer

Living on your own planet again I see.....I stated exactly what I think of MTG and what would happen with my vote if such a match up came about. Clean the leftist bullshit off your glasses and read it again lol

Originally Posted by Richard Davis

Wow, 7 people on the bridge in the photo.  

Call out the National Guard and then compare it to 9-11

Come to think of it.... 7 people is about the average number of people who attend Joe Biden rallies.

Originally Posted by James Brown

Hi Rod, I guess I am with Rich on this one.  I have no idea what your point is.  Kanye is not representative of mainstream conservatives or Republicans.  The anti-Semitic people out there have mostly migrated to the far left.  Like the students at Berkeley we commented on a few weeks ago.  The anti-Semitism expressed by several popular and admired Democrats, like the Squad, has always puzzled me.  Same with the anti-Semitism expressed over the years by prominent and influential blacks like Jessie Jackson, Louis Farrakhan, or Al Sharpton.

The whole BDS movement is sponsored by the left, isn't it?  

What was your point in posting this?  Jim

Originally Posted by James Brown

I think you have sidestepped the fact that anti-Semitism is now largely, but of course not exclusively, a feature of the left.  The BDS movement is a dressed up attempt by the left to vilify Israel, and in many cases Israel is proxy for a generally anti-Semitic core.  Do you remember the famous "all about the Benjamins" quote?  

As Rich and Brian have both observed, Kanye is a whack job who gets far more press than he warrants.  BDS is well coordinated, well funded and dangerous in my opinion.  Any thoughts?

https://bdsmovement.net/