Look at the new ad and it all becomes very clear!

Started by fblue, 03/20/2007 06:38PM
Posted 03/20/2007 06:38PM Opening Post
http://www.astromart.com/classifieds/details.asp?classified_id=490226

[SIZE="Large"][/SIZE][COLOR="Blue"][/COLOR] Floyd Blue grin
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Posted 03/20/2007 07:24PM #1
Floyd Blue said:

http://www.astromart.com/classifieds/details.asp?classified_id=490226

Hi Floyd,

Wow - Interesting.

Timm
Posted 03/20/2007 09:23PM #2
To understand that reason of my add , read what I wrote already at a diffrent place and I hope it explains all to you:

Before any speculation arise, let me make things clear from my position

1, I have no conflict with Thomas Back, we are still talking friendly together.And I am working on a deal which brings Thomas a lot of money in his pocket for his docters.
2, Thomas Back and me still doing business together on friendly base and against payment , he design for me and pay him , thats our agreement. And if Thomas ever recover , he can come back any time to sell his designed Apo's again.
3, Thomas Back works for a few companys , only 2 of them pay him, one is Astronomics and the other one is APM. The other 2 companys do not pay him. Thomas complained personaly to me that he does not get paid from those 2 companys.

Therefore , thats my personal believing , Thomas took eyepiece shipments he sold to me as payment for his work.

I introduced about 1 year ago this Burgess/TMB Planetary eyepieces to the german market with my dealer net, that including also TS.

Soon the shipment was sold out and we ordered more from TMB, that was about 1 year ago.

Since that 1 year Thomas was delayed by BB from 1 date to the next with reasons , you would maybe smile about.
Thomas simply could not get this eyepieces for me anymore , maybe because BB does not want to pay him ?

Anyway after 9 month waiting, seeing more and more reviews of the eyepieces , our german customers said, we also want them.

We could not get them, so TS , our european biggest China Importer easily found the manufactor of the eyepieces. TS asked if he can buy them, manufactor said yes, no problem, TS send money over and got the eyepieces.

At this time APM still did not bought that TS version , but hoped that BB keep his word. BB Promissed me personaly and via Tom Davis that I get the 1 year backordered eyepieces at WSP 2007 delivered.T. Davis even told me he cannot understand that I could not get the eyepieces , they are in stock at BB. I told T. D. call Thomas Back and tell him that , Thomas needet urgent the eyepiece money from me for his medicin, but without eyepieces in his hands Thomas back could not make a invoice to me.

I got there 2 pc 40 mm Paragon and nothing else.
After WSP I got from T. D. informed, that I get all my backorders by end of february 2007.

That date past again and silent came back.

Well my customers on the wait list have been extremly pashioned , but then TS started to announce he has the eyepieces under his name for sale from stock.

My long time waiting customers cancled the orders to me and bought them from TS.

Enough was enough.

From USA I got from the promissed shipments nothing , but here in Germany I could buy from TS what I need and wait 1 year for before.

I wrote 1 last email to BB telling him, if he has no eyepieces now for me , then I buy them from TS..

BB did not even replied my email, so well , time was over and I started to buy from TS and could finaly deliver to my customers.

TS itself never ever have had the idea to buy and sell this eyepieces under his own own.

But BB who did deliver nothing, forced TS to go his own way.

So BB never ever shall complain that TS now selling this eyepieces, this happened only due the fault of BB who could not or did not want to deliver this eyepieces for 1 year .

My personal thought on this case is, that BB simply did not want to handle over to Thomas back eyepieces , who could use them as payment for his job.

Now thats our storry , do you really complain now what TS is doing and I started to do ?

I believe we also have the fully moralic rights on our side. Thomas Back does not loose and not win any cent becuase he get not paid by BB for his works, thats the last words I heard from TMB. But BB who does not pay TMB loose profit .

so now sit down and read again our storry and tell me who is responser for all whats going on here

thanks

Markus Ludes


clear skies

Markus Ludes
APM-Telescopes/Germany