A Tale of 2 Secondaries

Started by Bob Chester, 07/01/2004 08:55PM
Posted 07/01/2004 08:55PM Opening Post
I'm searching for opinions from some of the optical experts out there.
I have a nice little 6" newt and for years have had a 1.3" secondary in it. This sec. is pyrex and was advertised as 1/10th wave (no documentation) and the scope has always star tested very good, if not excellent.
About 1-1/2 years ago I purchased a 1.52" sec. for better illumination when using 35mm film. It is one of those expensive 1/20th wave quartz sec. that come with full test documentation. It has been in the scope since I got it but dispite all my efforts has never star tested as well as the 1.3". I usually attributed the poor star test to seeing conditions and the fact that the primary needed recoating. I had the primary recoated and still the star test did not improve.
Tuesday night I reinstalled the 1.3" pyrex and even while tweaking the collimation I could tell the star test was going to be much improved. After the scope acclimated I did a star test and the results were a definate improvement.
I surely do not want to accuse anyone of falsely claiming the precision of thier secondaries so these 2 questions arise.

1. Would an oversized secondary further illuminate surface errors in the primary resulting in an apparently poorer star test?

2. Since I did extensive bare mirror star testing with the 1.3" while I was figuring the primary have I created a matched optical set that may not star test well with a different secondary? Note-- the bare mirror did not pass the star test untill the Foucault numbers were dead on so I sort of doubt this one.

Your opinions please.

Bob

p.s. I use Novak supports so no adhesives or stress is applied to the secondaries. Stress was my first thought but has been eliminated as a cause.

Fujinon 10x70 FMT-SX binocs
Tak FS-78 ƒ/8.1 - 630mm fl.
6" ƒ/6.5 homeground newt. - 981mm fl.
10" ƒ/4.85 homeground dob. - 1231mm fl.



Posted 07/01/2004 09:42PM #1
We need a little more information -- in what way was the star test bad? Did it show Under- or over-correction? Astigmatism? Rough surface?
Posted 07/01/2004 09:59PM #2
Bob,
I would like to know what type of defect you are seeing in the star test.
You could utilize a ronchi eyepiece which might help. If you see a defect with it, you could rotate the primary 90 degrees and the defect should rotate 90 degrees as well. If the defect doesn't rotate with the primary, the secondary is at fault.