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Let Hubble Die

Started by xb71val, 05/14/2008 05:42AM
Posted 05/14/2008 05:42AM Opening Post
That got your attention wink

But seriously, perhaps we should have let Hubble die? It's a moot point now, the service mission will go forward soon. Setting aside the emotional attachment of the general public and the home state politics (Maryland's congressional delegation, where the STSI is HQ'd, led the charge for a repair mission in Congress), is the additional $1 billion cost worth the human and technical risks? A couple of points:

1. COST: $1 billion is a big down payment on a new optical/UV/near IR space telescope. If you use off the shelf technology you could certainly orbit a new telescope for less than the $4.5 billion cost of the Webb. Especially if you keep in simple - no Beryllium folding mirror. A KH-12 spy sat (on which the Hubble design is based) is $1 - $2 billion depending on how you interpret the budget.

2. TECHNICAL RISK: The repair mission will require fixing several things that were not designed to be fixed in space, the ACS and the STIS. These two instruments took up most of the HST's observing time in recent years (prior to their respective demise) and are responsible for most of the science. Yes, the WFPC3 will give great UV to near IR coverage, but that could have been incorporated into a replacement.

3. HUMAN RISK: The space shuttle is a death trap. 2% chance for catastrophic failure. Congress, NASA, and the space-industrial complex are hopelessly attached to the shuttle and the tens of thousands of jobs it provides. It can be both cheaper and safer to get people to space. The Russians do it on a shoe string budget with what is basically an SS-6 ICBM designed in 1957. We can do better for much less $$$.

Had a decision been made years ago, we would be looking forward to a replacement becoming operational in the next year or two. No one would have cared when the Navy brought down Hubble with an ABM 10 years from now.
Posted 05/14/2008 03:06PM #1
Chad Braithwate said:

That got your attention wink

But seriously, perhaps we should have let Hubble die? It's a moot point now, the service mission will go forward soon. Setting aside the emotional attachment of the general public and the home state politics (Maryland's congressional delegation, where the STSI is HQ'd, led the charge for a repair mission in Congress), is the additional $1 billion cost worth the human and technical risks? A couple of points:

The bottom line? Shuttle missions WILL continue until the program's end in a few years whether the HST is serviced or not. The money can be spent either to service HST OR for the (IMHO) less worthy task of adding another wing onto the white elephant ISS.

The Hubble's capabilities are different from those of the JWST, and we might be very happy to still have the old gal, to have an optical space telescope of some kind, if something goes catastrophically wrong with the newun--which CANNOT be serviced.

Any high performance aircraft is a "death trap."


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Posted 05/14/2008 06:31PM #2
As long as NASA has astronauts lined up eager to volunteer for such a mission, the risk to them does not concern me all that much. They're adults and they know the risks better than anyone. It's not like the USA doesn't risk and sacrifice lives every day for far more dubious causes.

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