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Most Difficult Book Read?

Started by drachal, 08/14/2007 05:54PM
Posted 08/14/2007 05:54PM Opening Post
Back in the early '80s, I bought a paperback edition of Darwin's The Origin of Species determined to read and understand it, as best I could, no matter how long it took.

I believe it took me two or three months to finish it, because I could only read relatively short passages and had to reread paragraphs several times to make sure I was understanding what he was saying.

Anyway, the whole point of this is, I'm am curious about what it the most difficult book you have read and understood? Maybe an odd question, but it just came to mind. wink

Darian R.
Posted 08/14/2007 08:56PM #1
Anyway, the whole point of this is, I'm am curious about what it the most difficult book you have read and understood? Maybe an odd question, but it just came to mind.

This discussion probably belongs in the DVD/CD and Book forum, but what the heck. wink

For me it was Ulysses by Joyce. It made for a difficult and yet unrewarding semester back in college. Funny thing is I actually like Joyce but Ulysses is really so different from anything else he (or anyone else) has written.


Posted 08/16/2007 02:09PM #2
You want a difficult read, try anything by Gibbons, Boswell, or Samual Johnson. Three greats from the middle of the 18th century. I have never been able to finish anything that those fellows wrote. I guess it was the the writing style of the age. BTW, I am not particularly thrilled over the Russian authors, but I have at least finished the Russian novels that I started.

Ted
Posted 08/17/2007 05:47AM | Edited 08/17/2007 06:34AM #3
Rational Fasting by Arnold Ehret.

It was written about 100 years ago, and based on pragmatic experience and proven results. He advocates fasting to clean out your system then proper diet to keep your system clean. Good health is achieved at the cellular level, by eliminating clogging of fluid interchange. Nutrients in, and waste out, without hindrance. V=P-O. Vitality equals pressure minus obstruction. As simple as Ohm's law, E=IxR. Electromotive force equals current times resistance. Bad diet plugs up cellular fluid interchange. If you increase resistance in an electrical circuit, current goes down, and power goes down as well if E is held constant. Plug up your cell walls, and your energy and health goes down along with decreased fluid interchange that gets energy in and wastes out. So freaking simple, but hard to accept for some.

I received my trainig at a conventional medical university. I had to unlearn a lot of false nutritional information (dogma, actually) that has been passed off as fact for decades at medical schools who receive a large part of their funding from pharmaceutical companies. Coffee, tea and beer really ARE better for you than drinking cow's milk as Ehret proved decades ago. Broccoli IS a much better source of calcium than milk. Milk is not a true calcium source at all, since all its calcium and more is used up to offset the acidity caused by milk protein. If that were not the case, a heavy milk drinker would die from acidosis. When you drink milk, extra calcium is pulled from your bones, so it's a calcium deficiency generator. Besides, milk plugs up your system as it's a mucus generator. Drink a few ounces of milk and later on a few ounces of tea. See which one causes you more mucus in your mouth and throat. It does the same thing way deep inside you as well, at the cellular level, where you can't spit mucus out so easily.

Also, cures for the common cold and flu viruses have been known for decades by the drug companies. It's called olive leaf extract. Works like a charm for me. I never take flu vaccines and can get over the worst flu in 3 days while those who go the conventional route can take 3 weeks or more to get over flu.

After reading Rational Fasting, if you think Ehret is full of crap, then it shows how messed up in the head YOU are from modern medical misinformation. It's fun to give the book to a doctor or nurse and have them come back and tell you how screwed up Ehret is, based on their advanced medical training. Their general state of health tells me they hardly know what THEY are talking about as far as real health goes.

I have followed Ehret's advice, and I know he is the one who was/is right. His clinic took in incurable patients and usually cured them, after conventional medical doctors had given them up for dead. He did it over and over and got lots of doctors mad at him for showing them up.

If you have been brainwashed by conventional medical and nutritional sources, you will find his books hard to accept. One guy that writes nutritional and health books is married to a doctor, and he asks her advice when he is sick, then does exactly the opposite, and claims he hasn't made a wrong decision so far. I had one doctor at work tell me he went against conventional medical advice at times, but his patients would DEMAND he do the conventional treatment or they would go elsewhere. He became a radiologist to get away from internal medicine dogma. That way insurance still pays his fee. Become an alternative medical doctor, and you'll probably see your income take a big nosedive.

Some people are seeing the light now, but 20 years ago when I was reading Ehret, it sounded rather strange. He throws the "balanced diet" concept right out the window, but it was based on what he saw in nature. Ancient people ate a lot of what was in season or available, and any variety came with the seasons and not in the same meal. You cannot digest all 4 basic food groups at once, so putting them all in a single meal is not he best thing to do. It's better to eat a pound of cherries or carrots at one sitting than to eat a pound of salad made from a half dozen or more fruits or vegetables. Add meat, bread and dairy.....and your are headed for indigestion and toxicity.

I talked to four professional dieticians at work, and they had never heard of Ehret, and he was the father of modern alternative nutrition. When you question them, they don't know much of anything that the really good nutritionists know. That's the way the medical industry likes it.

When I had jaw surgery, my first hospital meal after surgery was jaw breaker hard candy and a can of Coca-Cola. No fooling. Hospital dieticians are mostly brainwashed parrots for pharmaceutical companies. Refined sugar depresses your immune system. And these are the people that say Ehret is all wrong. His book isn't hard, it's IMPOSSIBLE for them to accept.

Phil
Posted 08/18/2007 04:31PM #4
Anything on Quantum Computing.

"--Granted, that's a worse case scenario. The destruction might in fact be ... limited to our own galaxy."
Posted 08/19/2007 04:33AM | Edited 08/19/2007 04:43AM #5
Darian Rachal said:

Anyway, the whole point of this is, I'm am curious about what it the most difficult book you have read and understood? Maybe an odd question, but it just came to mind. wink

The most difficult book that I've read in recent memory was 'Far Side Of The World' by Patrick O'Brian. Actually, it was such a diffcult read that I quit it halfway through. I was kind of ashamed of myself for doing that, but reading that book was worse than being skinned alive! It's written in the prose, jargon, and colloquialism of the time period in which the story occurs, and the author uses an unbelievable vocabulary of arcane nautical terms. It appears as if all of O'Brian's books are just as difficult. Oh well, I can only hope that more of them will be made into movies.

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Posted 08/23/2007 02:59AM #6
Darian Rachal said:
Anyway, the whole point of this is, I'm am curious about what it the most difficult book you have read and understood? Maybe an odd question, but it just came to mind. wink


How about any college level economics text?

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