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Originally Posted by James Brown

By the way, the DSA‘s influence in the Democratic Party is currently vastly outsized compared to its dues paying membership. I am sure my Congresswoman Diana DeGette would agree. Her primary loss to an untested DSA candidate was one of the most shocking political events I’ve witnessed in a very long time. So I think your analogy, while correct on the numbers, breaks down in the effect. I don’t believe any openly white supremacists, members of the proud boys, the Ku Klux Klan, or the like have won primaries is giving them basically un-opposed paths into Congress in 2026.  J.  

p.s.  I get it that some on the extreme left would consider all white male Republican congressmen to be white supremacists, but that is a ridiculous dilution of the words “white supremacist”.   Word dilution for political gain is something that has bothered me for a long time. The most recent glaring example is those who insist Israel’s actions in the Gaza Strip be characterized as “genocide“.  I have young relatives who insist that genocide in Gaza is a truth beyond debate, and that anyone who supports Israel at any level is therefore complicit in genocide. Discussion becomes impossible on those terms.

Unique regional and local demographic changes in Denver played a major role in Diana DeGette's loss. I don't think a DSA candidate could win anywhere without a similar advantage, or if the area were not already quite liberal.

Originally Posted by James Lacey

Unique regional and local demographic changes in Denver played a major role in Diana DeGette's loss. I don't think a DSA candidate could win anywhere without a similar advantage, or if the area were not already quite liberal.

Yep, Denver County is quite liberal. As I’ve mentioned many times, I was the anti-Trump R delegate from my district in Denver back in 96.  At the R county convention, the Republican chair asked if anyone was interested in running against DeGette, everybody laughed, it was obviously a well worn inside joke.

The scary part is that it’s not like Diana DeGette is any lukewarm liberal.  If she was not far enough to the left of the spectrum for the Denver voters, I don’t know what to think. I did not pay much attention to the campaign, but I think the people who actually voted in the primary saw her as part of the establishment, and hated her because she voted in certain instances for aid to Israel.   How any level of support for Israel, no matter how tentative, became a litmus test on the far left is something I’ll never understand.

Originally Posted by James Brown

Yep, Denver County is quite liberal. As I’ve mentioned many times, I was the anti-Trump R delegate from my district in Denver back in 96.  At the R county convention, the Republican chair asked if anyone was interested in running against DeGette, everybody laughed, it was obviously a well worn inside joke.

The scary part is that it’s not like Diana DeGette is any lukewarm liberal.  If she was not far enough to the left of the spectrum for the Denver voters, I don’t know what to think. I did not pay much attention to the campaign, but I think the people who actually voted in the primary saw her as part of the establishment, and hated her because she voted in certain instances for aid to Israel.   How any level of support for Israel, no matter how tentative, became a litmus test on the far left is something I’ll never understand.

P.s.  even though Denver is liberal, it is not crazy liberal like Boulder or San Francisco. We have had Republican mayors in Denver in my lifetime, and there are still a lot of good old boys, old money, new money from Texas and so on hanging around. If the Republicans had spotted DeGette’s demise in advance, they could’ve run a high name recognition Republican (John Elway?) against a vulnerable socialist newbie and maybe won that seat for the first time in about 60 years.

Originally Posted by James Brown

P.s.s.  I guess word dilution for political gain has been with us forever. Obviously, exaggeration to the point of insanity along with gross mischaracterization of anyone's actual political position is the only arrow in Richard’s quiver.   The effect of this is the same, no matter who does it, it stifles conversation.   That is too bad.

I had plenty of arrows "in my quiver" as you described, however as always you failed in your response...  SHOCKING!! 

Is there anything you ever get right since you've become a Democrat and finally admitted how liberal you are?  

I was glad to see that James Lacey helped prove that when you made your ridiculous assertions about him being a staunch conservative, but only recently had changed his thoughts and become more liberal than he used to be were shot to shit as he has admitted freely that he has ALWAYS been a progressive liberal.  

I guess that kills your former argument now doesn't it, and proves that your insight into his political ideology was about as accurate as somebody saying the sun rises in the west and sets in the east.   

Your ability to always fail is only surpassed by your inability to read and understand others around you.  

Then again, it certainly isn't surprising that you began this thread in utter shock and disbelief that the platform of the DSA was so radical.  Perhaps that is simply another example that you've never paid attention to anything going on around you in the world of politics, which is why you are (like many other RINOs) simply disconnected from facts and evidence.

Maybe one day, you'll get a clue but I doubt it.  You remind me of the CNN anchor that night he was reporting live, delivering the actions of radical libs burning down buildings behind him in that infamous video during the BLM attacks on civility and decency and he actually stated "there is a mostly peaceful protest going on here in Minneapolis......". 

You've reached the level of that clueless CNN anchor, and the only difference between you and that ignoramus is that he had a camera and microphone, while all you have in comparison is your ignorance and willfull blindness about who exactly makes up your newfound political party.

It certainly isn't the sane crowd of Old Democrats and it isn't looking as if the sanes ones will ever regain power again.  

Good Choice you made there in siding with the lunatic party of buffoons.   

RD: "Good Choice you made there in siding with the lunatic party of buffoons."

Tell us Rich, do you support taxpayer funds for Trump ads, including the latest one entitled, "God Made Trump"? Would you support taxpayer funds for a Democratic campaign ad entitled, "God Made Biden"?

Tell us Rich, do you support AG Blanche being a WH spokesperson addressing questions from the media from the Rose Garden of the White House? Would you support a Merrick Garland doing the same under a Biden administration?

Tell us Rich, would you support Trump declaring a "national emergency", "insurrection" or "martial law" if the November elections don't go the way he likes?

Tell us Rich, would you support the idea of providing $5000.00 to eligible USA adults if the proposal came from a Democratic presidential nominee?

Originally Posted by James Lacey

.....since I've always been socially progressive. JimB knows this, as well as anyone here,

Thank you for confirming as I have stated in the past that you've never been a conservative and you've ALWAYS been a progressive liberal.

Years back, Jim Brown wanted to argue with me, telling me that You used to be MORE conservative but that you've changed.

Glad to see you verify that he was wrong about You back then and he's once again wrong today, in his attempt to paint you as a reasonable center left lib, when that's the furthest thing from the truth.   

Originally Posted by Richard Davis

Thank you for confirming as I have stated in the past that you've never been a conservative and you've ALWAYS been a progressive liberal.

Years back, Jim Brown wanted to argue with me, telling me that You used to be MORE conservative but that you've changed.

Glad to see you verify that he was wrong about You back then and he's once again wrong today, in his attempt to paint you as a reasonable center left lib, when that's the furthest thing from the truth.   

James is socially progressive and fiscally conservative. Always has been, as anyone who can read, even you, certainly knows.  In my opinion, James has trended (very slightly) to the left as I have known him over the past 20+ years.

Life happens and as some of us mature and become wiser our values and insights sharpen.  Our political positions evolve.  Bottom line, James is perhaps slightly more liberal than he was 20 years ago, but not by much.   I too am more liberal on social issues than I was 20 years ago.   But not a ton.   I bet James agrees with me when I say that the parties have moved much farther to the extremes than we have.

Originally Posted by Richard Davis

Thanks for the laughs today.  I'll check back in to this insane asylum in a few weeks for another good laugh.  

Until then, continue on you meatheads.  Have a great time!   

Has it been a few weeks already?

Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman

RD: "Good Choice you made there in siding with the lunatic party of buffoons."

Tell us Rich, do you support taxpayer funds for Trump ads, including the latest one entitled, "God Made Trump"? Would you support taxpayer funds for a Democratic campaign ad entitled, "God Made Biden"?

Tell us Rich, do you support AG Blanche being a WH spokesperson addressing questions from the media from the Rose Garden of the White House? Would you support a Merrick Garland doing the same under a Biden administration?

Tell us Rich, would you support Trump declaring a "national emergency", "insurrection" or "martial law" if the November elections don't go the way he likes?

Tell us Rich, would you support the idea of providing $5000.00 to eligible USA adults if the proposal came from a Democratic presidential nominee?

Deafening silence for richie! How surprising.

Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman

RD: "Good Choice you made there in siding with the lunatic party of buffoons."

Tell us Rich, do you support taxpayer funds for Trump ads, including the latest one entitled, "God Made Trump"? Would you support taxpayer funds for a Democratic campaign ad entitled, "God Made Biden"?

Tell us Rich, do you support AG Blanche being a WH spokesperson addressing questions from the media from the Rose Garden of the White House? Would you support a Merrick Garland doing the same under a Biden administration?

Tell us Rich, would you support Trump declaring a "national emergency", "insurrection" or "martial law" if the November elections don't go the way he likes?

Tell us Rich, would you support the idea of providing $5000.00 to eligible USA adults if the proposal came from a Democratic presidential nominee?

He'll ignore this post, and as he likes to say, he'll "hide under his desk". No substance to any of his posts and only immature fifth grade name calling. He'll also claim it as a win.