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Natural immunity does count, just ask science....

Started by atomant, 01/21/2022 11:24AM
Posted 01/21/2022 11:24AM Opening Post
https://academic.oup.com/cid/advance-article/doi/10.1093/cid/ciac022/6507165

recently posted by cdc.
irresponsible to fire workers just based on vax status.
especially having worked almost entire year without vax.

wake up!
Posted 01/21/2022 10:34PM | Edited 01/21/2022 10:39PM #1
Originally Posted by william chiu
https://academic.oup.com/cid/advance-article/doi/10.1093/cid/ciac022/6507165

recently posted by cdc.
irresponsible to fire workers just based on vax status.
especially having worked almost entire year without vax.

wake up!

I'm curious, did you read the conclusion of the article?


Conclusions

Both previous infection and vaccination provide substantial protection against COVID-19. Vaccination of previously infected individuals does not provide additional protection against COVID-19 for several months, but after that provides significant protection at least against symptomatic COVID-19.

So, yes "natural immunity" does count, but like any immunity, it wanes over time, and after that, your best bet to avoid infection and severe illness is to get vaccinated.

I don't think this article is the gotcha moment you think it is. Read the Results section carefully. Even it says:

Among previously infected subjects, a lower risk of COVID-19 overall was not demonstrated, but vaccination was associated with a significantly lower risk of symptomatic COVID-19 in both the pre-Omicron and Omicron phases.

In other words, vaccination is still your best bet.
Posted 01/21/2022 11:29PM #2
you support firing of workers simply for lack of vax?
Posted 01/21/2022 11:44PM #3
Originally Posted by James Lacey



I don't think this article is the gotcha moment you think it is.
Parroting Jim Brown, verbatim I see?  wink
Posted 01/22/2022 12:27AM #4
Originally Posted by william chiu
you support firing of workers simply for lack of vax?
"simply"?  In a raging pandemic, WTF is wrong with you?...
Posted 01/22/2022 01:21AM #5
Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman

"simply"?  In a raging pandemic, WTF is wrong with you?...
RAGING Pandemic?  This is OMICRON, about as deadly as a cold.  LOL.

Are you That terrified?  Do we need to offer you a safe room!   wink
Posted 01/22/2022 01:41AM #6
Originally Posted by Richard Davis

RAGING Pandemic?  This is OMICRON, about as deadly as a cold.  LOL.

Are you That terrified?  Do we need to offer you a safe room!   wink
"The current 7-day moving average of new deaths (1,729) has increased 36.8% compared with the previous 7-day moving average (1,264). As of January 12, 2022, a total of 842,873 COVID-19 deaths have been reported in the United States."
"New Hospital Admissions:
"The current 7-day daily average for January 5, 2022–January 11, 2022, was 20,637. This is a 24.5% increase from the prior 7-day average (16,571) from December 29, 2021–January 4, 2022."

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/covidview/index.html
Posted 01/22/2022 01:44AM | Edited 01/22/2022 01:53AM #7
Originally Posted by william chiu
you support firing of workers simply for lack of vax?

When did I ever say that? Besides, I thought Republicans were pro-business and would support private companies being able to mandate whatever safety measures they would want for their employees. Or are you guys only pro-business when their actions align with your ideology?
Posted 01/22/2022 01:56AM #8
Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman

"The current 7-day moving average of new deaths (1,729) has increased 36.8% compared with the previous 7-day moving average (1,264). As of January 12, 2022, a total of 842,873 COVID-19 deaths have been reported in the United States."
"New Hospital Admissions:
"The current 7-day daily average for January 5, 2022–January 11, 2022, was 20,637. This is a 24.5% increase from the prior 7-day average (16,571) from December 29, 2021–January 4, 2022."

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/covidview/index.html
Oh, do you need me to send you some Vagisil??
Posted 01/22/2022 02:16AM | Edited 01/22/2022 02:17AM #9
Originally Posted by Richard Davis

Parroting Jim Brown, verbatim I see?  wink

No, you are just confused as usual.

https://astromart.com/forums/commentary-careful-read-the-terms-of-service/politics/holy-s-batman-say-it-isnt-so?page=1#post186181

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