This is a question for the pro-Bush crowd. I asked Jim this question in another thread, but I thought it would be worth broadening the question and asking the general audience.
The following is a list of events that have occured during the Bush presidency:
*The massive budget surpluses of the Clinon era have disappeared
*We are facing record deficits (in raw dollars) on a yearly basis
*The president has no plan to balance the budget (or have the budget balanced after he leaves office)
*He will be the first president since Hoover to have a net loss in jobs
*Health care costs have soared
*The Bill of Rights has been undermined
*Osama bin Laden has not been found
*The reconstruction of Afganistan has been slow and half-hearted
*His primary education acomplishment has been badly underfunded
*The president has waged a war on the environment
*He has lost the support of many of our long time allies
*World opinion of the US has plummeted
*We are facing massive trade deficits
*He has fired or removed scientists whose research disagrees with administration policy
*Gas prices have soared even after the VP put together an energy policy focusing on fossil fuels
*The country, administration, and president have been embarassed by the failure to find WMD's in Iraq
*The country, administration, and president have been embarassed by the tenuous link between Iraq and al Qaeda
*Intelligence was ignored leading up to 9/11
*We have not been "welcomed as liberators"
*The reconstruction of Iraq has come to a halt as peace cannot be reached
*The president's "coalition" has been crumbling in the face of Terrorism in Iraq
*By all accounts the situation in Iraq is getting worse
*The source of three quarters of the people and funding involved in 9/11 (Saudi Arabia) has not been mentioned diplamatically or otherwise by the administration
*Our credibility as 'benign peacekeepers' has been shattered
*al Qaeda remains a strong force (stronger even than before?)
By my count, 17-19 of these items are undisputed fact and the other 6-8 are widely held opinion (both sides of the aisle). The anti-Bush crowd will present arguements that each of these events has been the direct result of the policies of this administration. On the other hand, the president's supporters argue that the president has been 'unlucky' and these events have arisen due to circumstances beyond his control. A quick glance at the above list reveals that this has been a very unlucky president. The question of this thread is: What more has to go wrong before the president loses your vote? At what point does the list cease to be luck, and become an indication of the effectiveness of the administration?
I get the impression that the massive support of the president stems from the fact that he is a likable guy from the 'correct' political party. Because of this, his policies are defended endlessly. However, there is a growing list of mishaps. When does this list become an indictment of Bush's lack of foresight in his "It sounded like a good idea at the time" policies?
Or, does he have your vote unconditionally (well, short of building concentration camps for the extermination of left-handed people
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The following is a list of events that have occured during the Bush presidency:
*The massive budget surpluses of the Clinon era have disappeared
*We are facing record deficits (in raw dollars) on a yearly basis
*The president has no plan to balance the budget (or have the budget balanced after he leaves office)
*He will be the first president since Hoover to have a net loss in jobs
*Health care costs have soared
*The Bill of Rights has been undermined
*Osama bin Laden has not been found
*The reconstruction of Afganistan has been slow and half-hearted
*His primary education acomplishment has been badly underfunded
*The president has waged a war on the environment
*He has lost the support of many of our long time allies
*World opinion of the US has plummeted
*We are facing massive trade deficits
*He has fired or removed scientists whose research disagrees with administration policy
*Gas prices have soared even after the VP put together an energy policy focusing on fossil fuels
*The country, administration, and president have been embarassed by the failure to find WMD's in Iraq
*The country, administration, and president have been embarassed by the tenuous link between Iraq and al Qaeda
*Intelligence was ignored leading up to 9/11
*We have not been "welcomed as liberators"
*The reconstruction of Iraq has come to a halt as peace cannot be reached
*The president's "coalition" has been crumbling in the face of Terrorism in Iraq
*By all accounts the situation in Iraq is getting worse
*The source of three quarters of the people and funding involved in 9/11 (Saudi Arabia) has not been mentioned diplamatically or otherwise by the administration
*Our credibility as 'benign peacekeepers' has been shattered
*al Qaeda remains a strong force (stronger even than before?)
By my count, 17-19 of these items are undisputed fact and the other 6-8 are widely held opinion (both sides of the aisle). The anti-Bush crowd will present arguements that each of these events has been the direct result of the policies of this administration. On the other hand, the president's supporters argue that the president has been 'unlucky' and these events have arisen due to circumstances beyond his control. A quick glance at the above list reveals that this has been a very unlucky president. The question of this thread is: What more has to go wrong before the president loses your vote? At what point does the list cease to be luck, and become an indication of the effectiveness of the administration?
I get the impression that the massive support of the president stems from the fact that he is a likable guy from the 'correct' political party. Because of this, his policies are defended endlessly. However, there is a growing list of mishaps. When does this list become an indictment of Bush's lack of foresight in his "It sounded like a good idea at the time" policies?
Or, does he have your vote unconditionally (well, short of building concentration camps for the extermination of left-handed people
