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Started by d65, 07/18/2010 03:20PM
Posted 07/18/2010 03:20PM | Edited 07/18/2010 03:37PM Opening Post
Not too long ago I asked why women could not be ordained as priests and got no answer. Well, late last week the Vatican answered my question. Evidently, trying to ordain women as priests is as grave of an offense as pedophilia! I'm speechless. What do you guys think? Here's a link and please read it. I'm not making this stuff up:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/16/world/europe/16vatican.html
Posted 07/18/2010 03:28PM | Edited 07/18/2010 04:27PM #1
Darin Joeckel said:

Not too long ago I asked why women could not be ordained as priests and got no answer. Well, late last week the Vatican answered my question. Evidently, trying to ordain women as priests is as grave of an offense as pedophilia! I'm speechless. What do you guys think? Here's a link. Please read it, I'm not making this stuff up:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/16/world/europe/16vatican.html

I imagine that a lot of formerly "good Catholic" women will be leaving the Church now. This is an egregious example of the Church's twisted reasoning. Things like this remind me of why (besides being an atheist!) I left the Catholic Church.

The following statement by a bishop, “The Catholic Church through its long and constant teaching holds that ordination has been, from the beginning, reserved to men, a fact which cannot be changed despite changing times.” makes me wonder, is this official Church dogma, or is it merely a tradition? I was always under the impression that the male priesthood was a 'rule" and not "dogma."

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Posted 07/18/2010 04:12PM | Edited 07/18/2010 04:13PM #2
Darin Joeckel said:

Not too long ago I asked why women could not be ordained as priests and got no answer. Well, late last week the Vatican answered my question. Evidently, trying to ordain women as priests is as grave of an offense as pedophilia! I'm speechless. What do you guys think? Here's a link and please read it. I'm not making this stuff up:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/16/world/europe/16vatican.html

What do I think? I think you have a hidebound church run by frightened, foolish old men. They cannot see that ordaining women and allowing all priests to marry is the path for the survival of their church in the West. Or maybe they can, but that would involve that dreaded CHANGE.

On the face of it, such an analogy is DISGUSTING.

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Posted 07/18/2010 10:57PM #3
To me it's a non-issue as I've not heard of any burning debates within the membership of the Catholic church for ordaining women. Sure there are those advocating it, but a buring issue? I think not. There are those however who are ordaining females as priests in Catholic church. This is of course wrong as it is against current Catholic canon so it the same as taking the law into your own hands. Best to either work it thru the system until you get results or form your own branch of modified catholisism. If there's lots of grass roots support, then your new catholic church will flourish. Go for it. Now people outside the church would like to make it a burning issue I'm sure, but they have different agendas...and inappropriate ones.

As far as if it is appropriate to how they classed it in comparison to, well certainly not a lot of political savvy for sure but bottom line, there is no correlation to crime type and punishment type anyplace, not even in the US criminal justice system. So certainly also a non-issue as this is typical in secular world too.

What I personally think is poor in this new press release is that there is an internal investigation first before they decide if anything criminal happened to refer it outside to civil authorities. This I think is just not right. If any allegation comes to light for any form of sex abuse, it should be church policy that it immediately gets referred to civil authority. Period.