Add me to the list of individuals that got tossed off the Burgess Yahoo Group. I guess they follow this forum and didn't like my previous comments. Just outrageous! No warning, no comment...just thin skin!
Got Dumped!
Started by jkurtz555, 10/15/2005 05:48PM
Posted 10/15/2005 05:48PM
Opening Post
Posted 10/15/2005 11:23PM
#1
If it makes you feel any better, I dumped them last year. I subscribed when I was thinking of getting a Burgess scope. I learned quickly that there was something seriously wrong with the company and that Yahoo group, but stayed on for awhile just for entertainment value. They sure do get their panties in a bunch, don't they?
Dave
Dave
Posted 10/16/2005 12:54AM
#2
Hi Jeffrey:
Not sure if getting dumped by the Burgess Yahoo group is a bad thing or a good thing. It well could be an indication of integrity....
I will say this: The fact that someone in the Burgess Optical Yahoo group is reading this group and passing on what is posted here is a good thing and quite refreshing.
While they may be afraid of other viewpoints and of the "truth", at least they do see it and are aware that they are not the only source of information about these scopes.
At one time, there would be discussion in the Yahoo group and then they would arrange a group "attack" on this group.
However, historically what happened was that their positions were not supported by the facts and they were forced to retreat with their "tails between their legs."
Since the fiascos with the Semi-APO lens and 93mm Fluorite, where apologies were clearly due to posters here, no one from that group has been over here.
So it is good to know they are getting the messages anyway. I am very glad to know that someone from that group has read about how I replaced my 102F6 objective with an Orion 100mmF6 objective and that the results were quite amazing. I call this the Burion.
This transformed a scope with some seriously poor optics, one that couldn't split castor cleanly, into one with quite decent optics, the double-double clean at 66X on most nights, zeta Cygnui, a relative close unequal double, is easily split. The widefield views are sharp, the high power views are decent, shadow transits are sharp and black, the cassini is clear.
This is the scope that the 102F6 should have been, a decent achromat with Synta quality optics but significantly better than Synta mechanicals. I only regret that others with the 102F6 do not have scopes that are decent Achros.
So, in the end, I must congratulate you on getting booted out of the BO Yahoo group, "You can't keep a good man down", "The cream rises to the top"...
Best wishes,clear skies
jon
Not sure if getting dumped by the Burgess Yahoo group is a bad thing or a good thing. It well could be an indication of integrity....
I will say this: The fact that someone in the Burgess Optical Yahoo group is reading this group and passing on what is posted here is a good thing and quite refreshing.
While they may be afraid of other viewpoints and of the "truth", at least they do see it and are aware that they are not the only source of information about these scopes.
At one time, there would be discussion in the Yahoo group and then they would arrange a group "attack" on this group.
However, historically what happened was that their positions were not supported by the facts and they were forced to retreat with their "tails between their legs."
Since the fiascos with the Semi-APO lens and 93mm Fluorite, where apologies were clearly due to posters here, no one from that group has been over here.
So it is good to know they are getting the messages anyway. I am very glad to know that someone from that group has read about how I replaced my 102F6 objective with an Orion 100mmF6 objective and that the results were quite amazing. I call this the Burion.
This transformed a scope with some seriously poor optics, one that couldn't split castor cleanly, into one with quite decent optics, the double-double clean at 66X on most nights, zeta Cygnui, a relative close unequal double, is easily split. The widefield views are sharp, the high power views are decent, shadow transits are sharp and black, the cassini is clear.
This is the scope that the 102F6 should have been, a decent achromat with Synta quality optics but significantly better than Synta mechanicals. I only regret that others with the 102F6 do not have scopes that are decent Achros.
So, in the end, I must congratulate you on getting booted out of the BO Yahoo group, "You can't keep a good man down", "The cream rises to the top"...
Best wishes,clear skies
jon
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