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Started by administrator, 11/26/2003 12:46AM
Posted 11/26/2003 12:46AM Opening Post
At 05:35 PM 11/25/2003, you wrote:

He is a not an AstroMart member.
Sorry
Herb



Herb,

After months of talking to a guy in China named Michael Fong I thought I was doing the right thing but just got nailed.

He wanted me to become a US distributor of China made optics and Tak equipment.

My search for a great mount led me back to him. He offered to sell me a Tak NJP for $3900. I couldn’t resist and wired him the cash on 9/2. I got a glass brick in the mail today.

I have my bank looking into what they can do.

I wanted to know if you have come across him and if you have maybe you could help me find him or at least alert others not to talk to him. He has a very sexy assortment of PICTURES of great stuff we all want.

Michael Fong

[email protected]

I don’t really know what my options are.

Thanks for any ideas.
Posted 11/26/2003 01:00AM #1
NEVER send money to a foreign country!!!!!!!!!!!
Period!!!!
No questions about it.
I for one will not deal with a foreign seller! I don't care what kind of credentials he has, I can't go and hunt him down if he screws me.
IMHO
Floyd

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Posted 11/26/2003 04:03AM #2
I suggest using an International Letter of Credit - it's much like a sight draft, in that it's not payable until the merchandise is received as stated.
Posted 11/26/2003 05:58PM #3
I would find a cheap vaction package to China. I thought I was scammed by someone here in the US. A local call to the police in the town this person lived in, got results. This person in China might be know to the local police there as well. It might be worth a try. I would like to know what measures are being taken with this China scam. Sorry to hear about your loss, keep us posted.
Posted 11/27/2003 03:29PM #4
I have dealt with "GreatEye" on eBay. For awhile he was selling quantities of the Meade 30mm SWA eyepiece for $150. plus $10. shipping. He also had very good feedback on the auction site. I purchased one of these and received the goods in 2 weeks as advertised and confirmed by former feedback. I also purchased the Apogee 30mm widescan (on clearance sale for $70.) at the same time to compare w/ the Meade. With the exception of Meade printed on the barrel of the one from China, both EP's were identical and looked like they came out of the same assembly line except for different colored coatings. I see others have purchased and sold the same EP from GreatEye. So did I.

The point I am making here is that if Michael Fong and GreatEye are the same person, he does not always fail to ship as promised. Perhaps that is part of his MO.

Jim
Posted 11/27/2003 07:43PM #5
Michael Fong is his English name. He says that his Chinese name is Fang Yong or Fong Young. His eBay name is Great-Eye.
He claims to be a distributer of DKD Optics Hong Kong.

RM202,Second Stair,Building No.56
Xing-Xian Road
Jia-Shan
ZHE JIANG 314100
CHINA

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Posted 11/27/2003 07:55PM #6
Murray,
What the heck was that anyway?
It was supposed to be a telescope?
Floyd

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Posted 11/28/2003 08:11AM #7
I frequently ask detailed questions about anything I'm going to buy, especially if I can't see it in person, say, an astromart or ee-hay item. It's common if I ask 5 or more questions to get only 2 or 3 answered on the first try. But, if the question: "will to accept escrow?" is ignored I move on to the next deal.

I got real scared when I bought a Teleport 10" and a Well Tempred Turntable via the well-known-auction-site-I-dare-not-speak-it's-name. They worked out fine, but next time I'll take precautions.
While we're at it, I've always wondered what't better. Ask 20 questions at the get-go, or ask a few if happy with the answers reply and ask some more?
Steven

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